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shrine and the other is the symbolic

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cosmology of the Dogon which also

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relates to a shrine called a granary

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actually and layered I I do apologize

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this one I'm gonna forego of the the

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intro just because again I would like to

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save some time here but again if you

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could take a start back to when you had

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mentioned the kind of the the crib notes

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of the background of your work okay

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the cosmology that I'm pursuing begins

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with an archaic philosophy called

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samkhya sa m'kay hya it is ancestral to

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traditions in India the Vedic tradition

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the Hindu and the Buddhist traditions it

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originated to the north and west of

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called the Shakti called a matriarchal

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group and this matriarchal group has all

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the same iconic elements we find

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representatives at gobekli tepe

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we have stone circles and standing

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stones we have carved in images of

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animals we have a type of clay pot

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called a potbelly there is filled with

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water to represent a womb one of the

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names of go back they tempted one of the

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traditional translated names forget

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about it go back with that beta's

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potbelly hill and that name refers to

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this icon so samkhya is a companion

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philosophy to yoga any concept that is

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valid in samkhya is also represented on

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a personal in a personal frame in yoga

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a11 we can think of as representing

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concepts of cosmological ascension

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the other one is representing concepts

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of personal ascension but their parallel

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run parallel to each other now in the

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also any philosophy that we find

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represented in samkhya is also typically

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reflected in the Dogon cosmology the

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Dogon are a modern-day African tribe

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it's a priestly tribe who are dedicated

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to preserving original forms they have

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done a very good job of preserving

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language and symbols and myths at the

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priests Dogon priests understand what

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their symbols mean and they say that

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what their symbols are representing our

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concepts of creation in particular how

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matter forms how the universe formed and

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how processes of biological reproduction

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to happen now they say that those three

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processes are so similar so

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fundamentally similar to one another

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that the Dogon actually represent all

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three simultaneously using a single

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progression of symbols what that means

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is that any given symbol has potentially

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slightly different meaning but parallel

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meetings that that relate to each of

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these three opinions three themes so

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it's not really fair to ask what a

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symbol represents you really have to ask

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what does it represent in terms of one

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of these themes so the starting point

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for the work that I put into my new book

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which is called seeking the primordial

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and there's a discussion of fundamental

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concepts of creation the starting point

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for that is this philosophy of samkhya

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universes form in pairs one non material

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and one material and the Dogon say that

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ours is the fourth of seven pairs of

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universes that arrange themselves in a

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sort of a heliacal spiral very

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reminiscent of the way DNA forms and so

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potential for life fits right into the

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structure of the universe yes I do

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recall that from from our last talk and

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one of the aspects that had blown my

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mind the most because it explains a

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considerable amount and when you compare

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it to ideas of you know heaven or hell

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alternates spirits for instance coming

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into this reality or apparitions it it

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makes you think whether these lessons

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had leaked through from earlier

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information were changed to just to be

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able to suit the purposes of the dogma

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right and I should mention that the

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samkhya philosophy is a non-theistic

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philosophy is also very non-judgmental

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although somke did spawn other later

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traditions were theistic in the original

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form the the debate was about theater

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burn on theism hinged on the fact that

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processes of creation begin with an act

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of perception we understand that matter

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in its wave-like form majus

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automatically transforms into particles

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after an act of perception and so if you

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trace this back to the beginning you end

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up with a conundrum a problem the

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problem is where did the first act of

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perception come from well that the

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mindset of samkhya the original

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structures that that everything formed

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from what had a consciousness to it and

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was able to self perceive and so there

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was no need to postulate an outside

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observer later traditions felt that you

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argue that you needed an outside

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observer so they placed an e 'ti there

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to perform that first act of perception

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that would set off the processes of

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creation I won't try to argue that

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debate but in the mindset of samkhya

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which is very non-judgmental you have a

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pairing okay where later traditions like

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err good and evil they counterpose good

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and evil in samkhya you have counterpose

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the concepts of truth and error it's a

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very non judgmental process that when a

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person speaks they can either speak the

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truth or they can say something that's

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not truthful that it's in error

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it the idea is that if you say something

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that's not true it implies that you need

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me to make another attempt at

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understanding what the truth really is

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they're not assigning nefarious intent

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flow of energy between these universes

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that's compared to by the Dogon to the

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natural water cycle on earth the natural

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water cycle is the cycle where that in

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which water evaporates from the oceans

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and the lakes to create clouds the

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clouds rise up over the mountains and

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create rain and the rain runs back to

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the oceans and rivers and streams and

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without that cycle of water there

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wouldn't be a life on the earth that

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that cycle of flow of water is necessary

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saying that there's a similar cycle of

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energy between these two universes that

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is essential to life in the universes in

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the mindset of this cosmology the non

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material universe is said to have

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perfect knowledge but an inability to

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act and the perfect the material

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universe is said to have imperfect

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knowledge with full ability to act and

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that it's understood that there are

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routine attempts being made to

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communicate knowledge from the non

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material side to the material side

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way of inducing certain actions and that

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communication happens in the form of

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coincidences in daily life you have

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synchronicities yeah let's see the

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strange behavior of animals can commute

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through clairvoyance and thinks I am

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anything paranormal with all of them the

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psychic divination

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those sorts of arenas now that's the

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basic relationship between the two

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relate the two universes as it's framed

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needed to understand where this leads as

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it turns out that scrolling energy that

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passes between the universes is not just

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equivalent effect for Einstein if you

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speed up if you accelerate a body it's

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it and so the suggestion is that the

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non-material universe which is virtually

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massless must persist in a state a time

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frame that is so ultra quick compared to

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ours as as if to be as if time didn't

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really exist there all events

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essentially happened at once on the

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material side we know that time scroll

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was linearly for us so the one of the

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metaphors I use to compare the

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difference is the time in the material

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that you have to listen to sequentially

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more like a CD where it might be

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theoretically possible to skip around

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from section to section time doesn't

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necessarily have to flow in that in a

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universes you have a progressive change

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that scrolling energy to what happens

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the process the mass of the two

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each other and at that point it becomes

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theoretically possible for an

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intelligence and one of the universities

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to cross over into the other universe

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this is precisely what the Dogon say

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happened in their memory that this

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symbolic cosmology that's been

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all over the world of various forms that

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you know the archetype symbols that you

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Hume points to were deliberately

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instructed according to the Dogon and

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Buddhist claimed that they were

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instructed by a non-material I mean a

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nonhuman source and the Dogon take it

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the next step and say originally that

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source was also non material but somehow

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able to act in a material frame well

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this this mindset of scrolling mass and

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scrolling timeframe is the mechanism by

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which it's thinkable that a non material

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entity might be able to act in a

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material universe actually if we if we

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consider it the traditional scientific

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viewpoint about how matter forms is that

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waves which are virtually massless are

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perceived and then are somehow magically

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magically that wave collapses and what

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was originally wave-like behavior of

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matter it suddenly becomes particle-like

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behavior so we have material structures

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which are particles that are somehow

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being manifested from non material waves

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so this is not such a strange concept

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that it's actually fundamental to what

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excuse me using the least time I'm gonna

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give people and hope that we can give

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people a not gonna say a taste but kind

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of a I'm gonna try and see if we can

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break down the books subject matter to

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give a tantalizing taste to those

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because if they have if you haven't

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picked it up if you haven't worth your

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time and for those who have not read it

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yet one of the big things for me was one

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of the chapters which relates to but

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unmatched elements of Dogon cosmology I

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know that when you had raided started

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writing the comparisons between you know

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Egyptian and Dogon cosmology and

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symbolism or comparing let's say these

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stupas to Buddha structures that there

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are still elements that we don't know or

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don't understand compared to where they

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are well okay the entry point the

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original entry point for most people to

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the Dogon came from a book by Robert

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temple called the serious mystery it

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became apparent in that book that the

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Dogon knows some things about astronomy

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they shouldn't they know of the

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existence of a second star in the Sirius

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system that you can't really see without

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a telescope it's even hard to see with a

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telescope there's a large sun-like star

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and a small dwarf star that sits in the

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glare of the Sun lights are so following

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that as an entry point when we go to the

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anthropological studies of the Dogon the

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Dogon priests say that they're symbolic

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system describes how matter forms now

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most of the stages that are describing

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are things that where we as a

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technological society are capable of of

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verifying that and that's essentially

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what I did in my first book the size of

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the organ is I set the Dogon

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descriptions of each stage of this

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process side-by-side with scientific

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descriptions and the Dogon drawing next

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to the scientific diagram and just

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presented the inherent you know the

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intuitive match between the two the

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Dogon correctly described what we can

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think of as an alphabet of matter

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from wavez all the way up to the atom

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mm-hmm so it's clear that they know what

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they're talking about now from my

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perspective at this point I understand

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that one of the brash and alles for

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doing that I mean the cultures who

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receive this knowledge we're not

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technological cultures they had no

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immediate purpose for understanding how

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waves turned into atoms yeah that

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information was really aimed at a

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technologically based society like ours

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it was aimed at a future audience but

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what that information does for us at

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such a great distance of time is it

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establishes a credential of credibility

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for whoever put that system together

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that we should be able to look at that

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validate that whoever put it together

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knew what they were talking about and

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that sets us up to deal with another set

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of information that's more fundamental

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than that with some sense of confidence

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and whoever witness additional set of

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information together also knew what they

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were talking about that's the rationale

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for considering whether this could be

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real science rather than just the

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ravings of some African priests and even

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if it on words it would still be a

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considerable coincidence for them to

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have been describing

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atoms or waveforms yeah and really it

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goes beyond coincidence I was taught by

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my science teachers that when you're

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exploring a sock a question and you bump

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up against what looks like the third

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coincidence

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that it's time to consider whether

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something besides coincidence is going

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on well with this structure of matter

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that runs from wavez to the atom you

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would have coincidence after compounded

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coincidence sort of beyond credibility

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this year a number of coincidences you'd

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have to tolerate to think that there was

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a coincidental structure is goes beyond

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science II it becomes less and less

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scientific with each one you accept as

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being yet another coincidence so we have

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a structure that is arguably correct

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it's correct in the same way that if a

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four-year-old were to recite their

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alphabet to you

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and was able to point to the correct

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letters as I recited it any adult would

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say the child knows their alphabet

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well the doget can do that with a

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structure of matter they understand the

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alphabet of the structure better so now

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because I was comparing these things to

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what Stephen Hawking and Brian Greene

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were saying and Stephen Hawking and

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Brian Greene don't talk about things

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more fundamental than waves it wasn't

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obvious that we had another set of

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references here that were more

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fundamental and that might also need to

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be talked about but the doget actually

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do have several stages of the process of

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creation that precede waves and so my

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goal with this book was to try to find a

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way to test the reasonableness of those

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stages of matter and try to find

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scientific parallels or correlates to

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those stages that would point us in the

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direction of one of the Dogon actually

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talking about here how do these

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fundamental processes of creation

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actually work these are really really

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unique and interesting processes this is

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where we we learn about why time why we

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perceive time the way we perceive it the

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way in a material frame or where

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dimensions come from dimensions are a

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really interesting thing because you

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can't measure a dimension but dimensions

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provide us with the basis for units of

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measure we can't measure time itself you

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can't make sure the dimension of time

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but you can measure the flow of time

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just as you can't measure the dimension

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of linear linear linear dimension in

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space until you actually have a

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structure to that involves two or more

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points you could draw a line between

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those points and now you have something

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to measure so the concept of measure

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rests on an intangible concept of

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dimensions that's one of the things

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that's talked about we also have

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questions about what if there really is

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a non material universe involved here

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first of all why don't we see it and

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second of all what's its relationship

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with the material universe well the way

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I compare the metaphor that I use to

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understand where the why we don't see

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them in non material

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and the Dogon say we don't the doget

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actually have a symbolic element in

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their culture they they make symbolic

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use of masks to represent the idea that

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the non material universe could see yes

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but we can't see them the essential

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reason for us not being able to see it I

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compared to the idea of a driver who's

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just learning to drive a car who might

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not realize that the mirrors of the car

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create a blind spot if you didn't know

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it and if the person teaching you didn't

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explain to you that there's a blind spot

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there you might conceivably go your

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entire driving career and never really

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understand that there's enough of a

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blind spot to hide a tractor-trailer

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truck of its position right but if

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you've listened but if you've

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experienced it you would know just like

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a perfect example I almost died this

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afternoon because somebody didn't check

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the blind spot and almost pushed me into

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the wall of the highway when I was going

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to go pick up my wife and yes it's a

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real danger and it's not up there but

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you still have to pay attention to it

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heat it now in science we have actual

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indications of the existence of a blind

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spot that people have sort of looked

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past the best one I can think of has to

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do with kind of fundamental particle

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when we get down to components smaller

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than data than electrons and protons I

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get down to the level of quarks there

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are Stephen Hawking Pez that there are

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more than 200 different types of

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fundamental particles

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the Dogon say that there are 260 days

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now both the Dogon and Stephen Hawking

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scientists like Stephen Hawking

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categorize these fundamental particles

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by a property of symmetry there they're

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considering what the particle looks like

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from different sides and so there

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there's one category of particles that

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looks the same from every side there's

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another category of particle that has to

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be turned halfway around to look the

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same like a double-headed arrow there's

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a third kind of particle that has to be

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turned all the way around to look the

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same like a single headed arrow

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and there's also a fourth very strange

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card

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a particle called a half spin particle

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that has to actually be turned around

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twice in order to look the same and

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somebody like me scratches their head

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and says how can you possibly have to

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turn in an object around twice in order

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to get it to look the same well one of

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the possible explanations for that is

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that it's somehow passes into and out of

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that kind of a blind spot we can't see

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it and that as it passes into and out of

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that where it's we're really only seeing

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half the object we think we're seeing

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the whole thing as we rotate it around

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the nature of the object changes and we

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rotate it around twice it changes back

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so half spinning and particles are the

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kinds of particles that have the

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potential to point to the existence of a

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non-material realm

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well my entry point to this new book

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actually came as a result of asking a

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question that no researcher I had

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encountered including myself in over the

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course of 20 years had ever thought AK

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question is could the geometry that we

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call sacred geometry be the geometry of

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something because there are certain

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processes as scientific processes

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processes of physics that can be

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represented by geometry yep and so I

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asked myself is it possible that sacred

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geometry which in its simplest form

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presents itself as the alignment

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geometry for a stupa shrine this would

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mean that a Buddhist initiate uses July

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in his shrine up to north south east and

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west that turns out that geometry rests

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on some interesting things the first

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piece is a circle that's drawn around a

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stick in a field it creates essentially

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the shape of a sundial but from the

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standpoint of physics that's actually

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the geometry of what we call angular

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momentum and angular momentum is one of

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the fundamental processes that underlie

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matter this is the idea of a spinning

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top you probably are aware that in

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sci-fi movies you always see pictures of

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space stations where

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the space station is round and they spin

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the space station in order to create

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artificial gravity that's being created

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through angular momentum it's the idea

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that as you spin an object you're

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essentially creating gravity you're

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creating centrifugal force that pushes

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everything to the outside so angular

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momentum is the the concept that does

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that at the first stage of this Buddhist

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sacred geometry alignment is the drawing

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of the diagram that represents angular

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momentum now when you continue that

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drawing to produce the series of shapes

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that align the stupa plan what you

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produce is essentially the nyalam

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trigger that spin particles in other

551
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words the concept of sacred geometry and

552
00:25:00,000 --> 00:24:57,400
that symbol simplest form is pointing us

553
00:25:01,799 --> 00:25:00,010
to the kind of particle of science that

554
00:25:04,430 --> 00:25:01,809
has the potential to indicate that there

555
00:25:08,330 --> 00:25:04,440
is a blind spot there

556
00:25:09,890 --> 00:25:08,340
found this very interesting now uh it

557
00:25:12,050 --> 00:25:09,900
seems as if they if you're going to be

558
00:25:14,750 --> 00:25:12,060
creating angular momentum that the main

559
00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:14,760
reason you would want to teach somebody

560
00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:17,910
this is if you have an understanding of

561
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:20,340
well there are places that may not

562
00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:23,910
actually have gravity or may not be able

563
00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:27,270
to provide the same amounts of the same

564
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:28,980
type of environment that we're used to

565
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:33,090
dealing with or can function in or at

566
00:25:37,490 --> 00:25:35,370
least even that we've seen recently that

567
00:25:39,410 --> 00:25:37,500
said being out in space can actually

568
00:25:41,330 --> 00:25:39,420
change your DNA or at least change how

569
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:41,340
your DNA functions and they're just

570
00:25:46,610 --> 00:25:43,650
starting to understand just instantly

571
00:25:48,290 --> 00:25:46,620
when a person enters space changes start

572
00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:48,300
to happen to their DNA that we don't

573
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:49,680
understand yeah we don't know what those

574
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:52,110
changes are doing we don't know what the

575
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:54,210
potential bad effects on us are we may

576
00:25:58,130 --> 00:25:55,770
discover that it's not possible to have

577
00:26:00,830 --> 00:25:58,140
humans and out of space for long periods

578
00:26:02,090 --> 00:26:00,840
of time because of the bad effects it

579
00:26:06,830 --> 00:26:02,100
has on us physically

580
00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:06,840
well you'd lose bone density you know I

581
00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:09,240
I think I'm hearing some background echo

582
00:26:14,030 --> 00:26:12,390
on your side possibly shouldn't be I may

583
00:26:16,490 --> 00:26:14,040
have had set it on and there's no there

584
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:16,500
shouldn't be any sound through the air

585
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:19,110
to have an echo okay then believe it or

586
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:20,130
not this may actually be one of the

587
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:21,450
times where I don't know where that's

588
00:26:29,210 --> 00:26:26,610
coming from now the big question is that

589
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:29,220
everyone's asking or I should say will

590
00:26:35,810 --> 00:26:33,930
be asking once your your speaking

591
00:26:38,690 --> 00:26:35,820
engagements get going on this because I

592
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:38,700
I know many many people who listen to

593
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:40,490
this show and watch this show

594
00:26:43,670 --> 00:26:42,330
they've know that this has been coming

595
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:43,680
for this book has been coming for some

596
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:49,110
time can we discuss why this would have

597
00:26:55,060 --> 00:26:53,520
been a one a one way trip to

598
00:26:57,249 --> 00:26:55,070
[Music]

599
00:27:03,580 --> 00:26:57,259
this plane or at least this side of

600
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:03,590
existence yes okay if you consider this

601
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:06,559
process of scrolling energy you can

602
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:09,049
understand that the effect is very

603
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:11,210
similar to that of an airlock

604
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:13,610
talking about a spaceship or a submarine

605
00:27:20,019 --> 00:27:17,210
mm-hmm that when you have two zones that

606
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:20,029
are of different pressure talking about

607
00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:21,440
air pressure or water pressure or

608
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:23,419
pressure between a pressurized

609
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:26,570
compartment and outer space that the

610
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:28,730
only way that you can move from one to

611
00:27:32,350 --> 00:27:30,529
the other is to find a way to equalize

612
00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:32,360
the pressure long enough to make that

613
00:27:38,379 --> 00:27:35,750
shift and then slowly in the an airlock

614
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:38,389
you enter a pressurized then it's deep

615
00:27:43,509 --> 00:27:40,970
pressurized and you step out of it well

616
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:43,519
the idea with this scrolling energy is

617
00:27:47,470 --> 00:27:45,049
you have a difference in timeframe that

618
00:27:49,899 --> 00:27:47,480
prevents crossover between the universes

619
00:27:54,249 --> 00:27:49,909
in the same way that pressure does with

620
00:27:56,649 --> 00:27:54,259
water and then at the point in the cycle

621
00:27:58,269 --> 00:27:56,659
when the the time frames of the two

622
00:28:01,810 --> 00:27:58,279
universes equalize then it becomes

623
00:28:05,379 --> 00:28:01,820
theoretically possible to to step across

624
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:05,389
and to have interaction for one to the

625
00:28:11,289 --> 00:28:08,570
other now there are numerous metaphors

626
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:11,299
in the ancient traditions for this

627
00:28:18,009 --> 00:28:15,200
happening one of the metaphors is given

628
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:18,019
okay to get put at this we have to talk

629
00:28:21,220 --> 00:28:19,610
about something called the Yuga cycle

630
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:21,230
and talked about the concept of

631
00:28:28,419 --> 00:28:25,610
precession there's a cycle called the

632
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:28,429
precession of the equinoxes this is an

633
00:28:37,419 --> 00:28:32,480
approximately 25,000 or 26,000 years

634
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:37,429
cycle of apparent rotation of the

635
00:28:40,629 --> 00:28:39,289
constellations around the earth and it

636
00:28:45,850 --> 00:28:40,639
looks to us like they're rotating around

637
00:28:48,669 --> 00:28:45,860
us it's such a slow cycle that if you

638
00:28:50,409 --> 00:28:48,679
were to get up every morning and Mark

639
00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:50,419
down you know which constellation the

640
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:53,480
Sun rises in front of you would only see

641
00:28:59,259 --> 00:28:56,450
a one degree change in that rotation

642
00:29:01,090 --> 00:28:59,269
every 72 years so it's so slow then a

643
00:29:03,159 --> 00:29:01,100
single lifetime is not really not really

644
00:29:04,419 --> 00:29:03,169
enough to detect that it's there and yet

645
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:04,429
the ancient cultures knew that it was

646
00:29:08,850 --> 00:29:07,010
there and there are disagreements asked

647
00:29:11,220 --> 00:29:08,860
about as to what causes

648
00:29:13,650 --> 00:29:11,230
rotation the traditional explanation is

649
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:13,660
is caused by a slow wobble in the

650
00:29:21,620 --> 00:29:18,640
Earth's rotation the problem is that if

651
00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:21,630
that were true then that process is like

652
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:24,840
you being on a spinning merry-go-round

653
00:29:28,770 --> 00:29:26,650
everything that's not on the

654
00:29:31,260 --> 00:29:28,780
merry-go-round I look to you like it's

655
00:29:33,570 --> 00:29:31,270
spinning the problem is we have certain

656
00:29:36,150 --> 00:29:33,580
stars like the stars of Sirius that

657
00:29:38,220 --> 00:29:36,160
don't process they don't move they're

658
00:29:40,890 --> 00:29:38,230
like a child who's sitting across from

659
00:29:43,409 --> 00:29:40,900
you on the merry-go-round who if you

660
00:29:44,850 --> 00:29:43,419
look at them they don't seem expanding

661
00:29:47,340 --> 00:29:44,860
but everything behind the child doesn't

662
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:47,350
seem to be so there's there's something

663
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:50,320
else going on there's an actual rotation

664
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:54,130
here that is common to the Sirius stars

665
00:29:59,460 --> 00:29:57,490
and us and that can't possibly be caused

666
00:30:03,360 --> 00:29:59,470
by a wobble in the slow wobble in the

667
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:03,370
Earth's rotation with awesome

668
00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:05,530
pretty amazing things happening to the

669
00:30:10,820 --> 00:30:07,990
dynamics of the motion of the Sirius

670
00:30:13,470 --> 00:30:10,830
stars so that it consistently stage

671
00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:13,480
appears to stay precisely where it is in

672
00:30:20,909 --> 00:30:17,470
our line of sight from my point of view

673
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:20,919
the rotations being caused by there's a

674
00:30:24,419 --> 00:30:22,450
spiraling structure out there that

675
00:30:26,970 --> 00:30:24,429
that's not a parent it's very faint it

676
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:26,980
centers on the belt stars of Orion

677
00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:29,650
it's called Barnard's loop and it's the

678
00:30:35,460 --> 00:30:31,929
birthplace of stars that our Sun

679
00:30:39,210 --> 00:30:35,470
probably was born from and the rotation

680
00:30:40,919 --> 00:30:39,220
of that spiral looks to me as if it's

681
00:30:44,430 --> 00:30:40,929
the cause of what we see as precession

682
00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:44,440
according to Buddhism the Sirius stars

683
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:46,630
even though they're set sort of

684
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:48,130
obliquely from our point of view we're

685
00:30:52,289 --> 00:30:49,690
not looking straight on to look at them

686
00:30:53,789 --> 00:30:52,299
and a little angle that the circus stars

687
00:30:56,159 --> 00:30:53,799
actually sit at the center of that

688
00:30:58,980 --> 00:30:56,169
rotation and so they don't look like

689
00:31:00,980 --> 00:30:58,990
they're moving to us they look like a

690
00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:00,990
child who's sitting in the center of the

691
00:31:05,810 --> 00:31:03,790
merry-go-round and as as everything

692
00:31:08,730 --> 00:31:05,820
spins they don't seem to be spinning

693
00:31:11,130 --> 00:31:08,740
process we were spit out of that that

694
00:31:15,030 --> 00:31:11,140
cycle of precession is the largest cycle

695
00:31:16,890 --> 00:31:15,040
that humanity could perceive hmm now

696
00:31:18,450 --> 00:31:16,900
going along with that in the Vedic you

697
00:31:20,669 --> 00:31:18,460
know in the traditions of India there's

698
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:20,679
a concept called the Yuga cycle and the

699
00:31:26,940 --> 00:31:22,090
idea is

700
00:31:29,730 --> 00:31:26,950
that humanity's ability to eat things

701
00:31:32,970 --> 00:31:29,740
that are non material or they sometimes

702
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:32,980
called spiritual changes over time that

703
00:31:37,409 --> 00:31:34,809
in ancient times people were more able

704
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:37,419
to to perceive things on material than

705
00:31:46,350 --> 00:31:43,560
and that cycle divided the two half

706
00:31:49,049 --> 00:31:46,360
cycles one one is a descending cycle

707
00:31:52,049 --> 00:31:49,059
where our ability is becoming less and

708
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:52,059
less and less and the other is an ending

709
00:31:54,930 --> 00:31:53,440
cycle who are our ability to perceive

710
00:31:57,930 --> 00:31:54,940
the non-material is supposedly becoming

711
00:32:01,019 --> 00:31:57,940
greater and greater those are the entire

712
00:32:02,940 --> 00:32:01,029
cycle there are different figures

713
00:32:08,130 --> 00:32:02,950
potential figures given for how long the

714
00:32:09,539 --> 00:32:08,140
cycle is when I like is twenty five at

715
00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:09,549
twenty four thousand nine hundred and

716
00:32:17,070 --> 00:32:13,049
twenty years for the entire cycle and

717
00:32:20,250 --> 00:32:17,080
every all of the key ancient units of

718
00:32:23,970 --> 00:32:20,260
measure the 60-day year in the 12-month

719
00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:23,980
year the 30-day month the five or the

720
00:32:28,649 --> 00:32:25,929
10-day week the three of the four year

721
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:28,659
four month season year all of these

722
00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:32,010
units of time are even factors of that

723
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:37,960
processional cycle so from my point of

724
00:32:43,790 --> 00:32:39,810
view

725
00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:43,800
what's causing that change in ability to

726
00:32:48,290 --> 00:32:45,030
perceive the non-material

727
00:32:51,380 --> 00:32:48,300
based on the samkhya philosophy is this

728
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:51,390
scrolling energy because midway through

729
00:32:54,530 --> 00:32:52,770
the cycle we reach a point where we

730
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:54,540
should be able to perceive it perfectly

731
00:32:59,420 --> 00:32:56,850
where where that as the time programs

732
00:33:00,920 --> 00:32:59,430
equalize it's like the air locks the

733
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:00,930
pressure in the airlock equalizing with

734
00:33:07,460 --> 00:33:03,930
whatever chamber you're about to enter

735
00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:07,470
it's fine to enter a crossover we see

736
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:09,480
evidence of this in the ancient cultures

737
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:10,710
in ancient Egypt

738
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:13,770
okay the this Yuga cycle is sometimes

739
00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:16,290
referred to as a great year

740
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:20,190
it's the largest rotation that that

741
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:24,930
behaves like a year so in the ancient

742
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:30,700
the concept of an equinox which would be

743
00:33:36,190 --> 00:33:33,440
the period when this energy equalizes

744
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:36,200
was referred to by the name capper and

745
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:39,679
capper was the Egyptian dung beetle who

746
00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:41,600
represented the concept of non-existence

747
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:45,230
coming into existence in Judaism you see

748
00:33:51,549 --> 00:33:47,450
a holiday around the around the equinox

749
00:33:54,270 --> 00:33:51,559
called Yom Kippur or Yom Kippur at the

750
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:54,280
other equinox in Judaism you see a

751
00:33:59,950 --> 00:33:57,410
holiday called Passover and Passover

752
00:34:03,220 --> 00:33:59,960
ends a path a traditional Passover Seder

753
00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:03,230
ends with the opening of a door so a

754
00:34:08,109 --> 00:34:05,950
non-material

755
00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:08,119
ancestor by the name of Eliyahu can

756
00:34:14,169 --> 00:34:11,030
enter so they're actually physically

757
00:34:15,940 --> 00:34:14,179
acting out the process of some but non

758
00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:15,950
material beings you can't see stepping

759
00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:17,929
through from a non material side to the

760
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:22,310
material side and these for anybody that

761
00:34:30,070 --> 00:34:25,010
is that's at home we are referring to

762
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:30,080
the the at least the the beings that the

763
00:34:35,409 --> 00:34:32,810
the Dogon claim are taunted wrong they

764
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:35,419
were called the new mo the new mo now

765
00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:37,850
there are there's a relationship between

766
00:34:42,129 --> 00:34:39,950
Duggan words and Egyptian words on the

767
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:42,139
dough many of the Dogon cosmological

768
00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:44,690
words were also Egyptian words and some

769
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:47,260
of those were also hebrew words now the

770
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:51,290
egyptian equivalent of nemo is a phrase

771
00:35:01,090 --> 00:34:56,690
nu ma + nu space ma a new represents the

772
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:01,100
concept of waves which is matter in its

773
00:35:06,099 --> 00:35:03,680
wave-like state and ma is the concept of

774
00:35:09,940 --> 00:35:06,109
perception so the word pneumo actually

775
00:35:15,310 --> 00:35:09,950
implies the idea of non-material waved

776
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:15,320
like something being perceived these are

777
00:35:21,309 --> 00:35:18,320
the beings that the EE described as

778
00:35:25,010 --> 00:35:21,319
their non material teachers

779
00:35:28,099 --> 00:35:25,020
did they take material form when they

780
00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:28,109
entered this plane or were they energy

781
00:35:31,549 --> 00:35:29,940
well was this something that they had

782
00:35:34,670 --> 00:35:31,559
passed down as far as their knowledge is

783
00:35:36,289 --> 00:35:34,680
concerned those are all interesting

784
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:36,299
questions that are hard to answer

785
00:35:40,940 --> 00:35:38,609
there are perspectives in many different

786
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:40,950
cultures on on how this might have

787
00:35:48,049 --> 00:35:44,130
happened and how it presented we have a

788
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:48,059
similar situation there were when in the

789
00:35:52,819 --> 00:35:50,609
Old Testament when God appears on the

790
00:35:56,660 --> 00:35:52,829
mountain to Moses and the Israelites are

791
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:56,670
surrounding the mountain there are great

792
00:36:00,500 --> 00:35:59,010
cautions issued to the Israelites about

793
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:00,510
not approaching too close to the

794
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:02,609
mountain because of bad effects that

795
00:36:07,940 --> 00:36:05,010
might accrue to them from being too

796
00:36:10,539 --> 00:36:07,950
close the Dogon had the said they their

797
00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:10,549
teachers had the same concern that

798
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:13,020
prolonged contact between us and them

799
00:36:20,809 --> 00:36:16,890
was not good for us and so the solution

800
00:36:23,799 --> 00:36:20,819
to that problem was to sequester eight

801
00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:23,809
Dogon tribes people in a remote location

802
00:36:32,510 --> 00:36:29,990
instruct those eight tribes serious in

803
00:36:35,329 --> 00:36:32,520
slicing skills tag to the system of

804
00:36:37,549 --> 00:36:35,339
cosmology and send them back to teach

805
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:37,559
everybody else and that's a dynamic that

806
00:36:42,170 --> 00:36:38,970
plays out all over the world you see it

807
00:36:45,609 --> 00:36:42,180
in South America you see it in China you

808
00:36:47,660 --> 00:36:45,619
see it in Egypt you see it in Africa

809
00:36:51,289 --> 00:36:47,670
pretty much everywhere you go we see it

810
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:51,299
in Polynesia the idea of eight quasi

811
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:53,010
mythical ancestors who brought

812
00:36:59,359 --> 00:36:55,440
civilizing skills is one of the

813
00:37:01,069 --> 00:36:59,369
archetypes archetype themes and these

814
00:37:04,099 --> 00:37:01,079
themes are also prevalent in certain

815
00:37:05,779 --> 00:37:04,109
places such as Gobekli Tepe or in skara

816
00:37:09,950 --> 00:37:05,789
brae which was the subject of your last

817
00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:09,960
book skara brae which is in northern

818
00:37:14,779 --> 00:37:13,260
scotland looks to me it fits the

819
00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:14,789
description of what the Dogon and the

820
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:16,140
Buddhists are talking about when they

821
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:18,890
describe a remote location where

822
00:37:24,769 --> 00:37:22,410
instruction happened now at skara brae

823
00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:24,779
we happen to have the earliest

824
00:37:31,789 --> 00:37:27,000
megalithic sites in the United Kingdom

825
00:37:34,789 --> 00:37:31,799
and we have a series of sites that spell

826
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:34,799
out in stone portions of this alphabet

827
00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:38,130
of how matter creates so it says as

828
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:39,990
clear to someone like me as if they had

829
00:37:46,849 --> 00:37:44,970
sent in stone the letters a B D G H it

830
00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:46,859
wouldn't take a genius to figure out

831
00:37:51,140 --> 00:37:48,480
that they were trying to represent the

832
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:51,150
English alphabet well that's what these

833
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:53,609
megalithic sites do on or Canaan they

834
00:37:59,630 --> 00:37:56,730
lay out a recognizable series of the

835
00:38:01,910 --> 00:37:59,640
alphabet of how matter forms leading to

836
00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:01,920
the skara brae village which is 8

837
00:38:08,210 --> 00:38:04,680
chambered houses perfectly set to house

838
00:38:11,450 --> 00:38:08,220
eight ancestors or ancestor ancestral

839
00:38:13,819 --> 00:38:11,460
families on a site where clearly

840
00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:13,829
agriculture was being practiced

841
00:38:20,569 --> 00:38:17,670
alongside cosmology and in all the same

842
00:38:23,329 --> 00:38:20,579
form that samkhya says it should be in

843
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:23,339
the Dogon culture says it should be in

844
00:38:26,029 --> 00:38:25,410
we have comparability of language back

845
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:26,039
and forth

846
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:30,049
we have comparability of other

847
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:32,910
architectural elements we have a burial

848
00:38:38,359 --> 00:38:36,089
tradition that's a match we have unique

849
00:38:40,549 --> 00:38:38,369
plants and animals on Orkney the tie to

850
00:38:42,650 --> 00:38:40,559
the reed same region and area as the

851
00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:42,660
samkhya tradition we have lots of

852
00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:45,420
different evidence that points again and

853
00:38:50,839 --> 00:38:46,910
again and again that these two

854
00:38:53,930 --> 00:38:50,849
traditions are related it happened on or

855
00:38:57,230 --> 00:38:53,940
kay a few hundred years before the

856
00:38:58,789 --> 00:38:57,240
appearance of ancient Egypt actually a

857
00:39:00,890 --> 00:38:58,799
few hundred years before the appearance

858
00:39:03,769 --> 00:39:00,900
of agriculturally based kingships in

859
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:03,779
four locations around the planet one in

860
00:39:11,390 --> 00:39:07,369
Egypt called taru one in China called

861
00:39:13,269 --> 00:39:11,400
earu one in Ireland called aru and one

862
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:13,279
in South America called Peru

863
00:39:20,809 --> 00:39:17,599
so it looks to me as if we had

864
00:39:22,579 --> 00:39:20,819
deliberately called agricultural at

865
00:39:25,609 --> 00:39:22,589
cosmological instruction happening on

866
00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:25,619
Orkney before just before the appearance

867
00:39:29,690 --> 00:39:27,960
of dynastic Egypt

868
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:29,700
now I I know I'm starting to get

869
00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:31,200
somewhere I've been getting questions in

870
00:39:37,930 --> 00:39:33,540
here and to cause my when mark I've been

871
00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:37,940
writing your questions down the

872
00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:40,380
procedure like were these perceivers

873
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:41,940
that were they also known as receivers

874
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:44,310
this is coming from Cosmo dub were

875
00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:49,200
they'd the teachers where I believe I

876
00:39:56,990 --> 00:39:51,150
believe his question was the perceivers

877
00:39:59,240 --> 00:39:57,000
were the teachers the the teachers had

878
00:40:02,120 --> 00:39:59,250
originally been non-material which is

879
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:02,130
the side that can see the denominator I

880
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,570
can see the material side the materials

881
00:40:09,590 --> 00:40:05,760
I can't see back okay one of the terms

882
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:09,600
that's used that applies in Egypt is you

883
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:13,040
spell transliterated to you a TCH you

884
00:40:19,370 --> 00:40:15,690
pronounce that watch these are Watchers

885
00:40:22,370 --> 00:40:19,380
oh and one of the symbols that's used to

886
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:22,380
represent the two universes are eyes and

887
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:27,770
so it's the idea of mutual perception

888
00:40:35,630 --> 00:40:31,920
and with the you cycle works you know

889
00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:35,640
changing degrees of mutual perception so

890
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:38,040
yes from the Dogon perspective the

891
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:39,090
teachers had originally been

892
00:40:44,690 --> 00:40:42,090
non-material the Dogon also preserved a

893
00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:44,700
concept of the sacrifice of the Nommo

894
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:47,790
which is the idea that during the

895
00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:50,130
shifting periods of energy there are

896
00:40:56,810 --> 00:40:52,020
only certain times when crossover as

897
00:40:58,580 --> 00:40:56,820
possible and that the Dogon teachers the

898
00:41:01,610 --> 00:40:58,590
pneuma who came here to teach and assume

899
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:01,620
when they came that it would have to be

900
00:41:06,140 --> 00:41:02,850
a one-way trip for them that they would

901
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:06,150
not be in a position to go back if they

902
00:41:10,750 --> 00:41:08,250
decided to come here so there was a

903
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:10,760
sacrifice made to be able to teach us

904
00:41:16,340 --> 00:41:14,490
what was taught to us this same concept

905
00:41:18,980 --> 00:41:16,350
plays out with other cultures I'll talk

906
00:41:20,930 --> 00:41:18,990
about it in relation to the Maori in New

907
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:20,940
Zealand in the in the my upcoming board

908
00:41:27,050 --> 00:41:24,000
now the the beings did they and this is

909
00:41:28,490 --> 00:41:27,060
coming from from mark nibble so did you

910
00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:28,500
have another question there that we I

911
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:30,030
did this is related to the two the one I

912
00:41:33,530 --> 00:41:32,250
just asked you have I lost here no I'm

913
00:41:36,690 --> 00:41:33,540
still here can can you hear me

914
00:41:40,970 --> 00:41:36,700
can can you hear me

915
00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:40,980
I can hear you how about now it's a good

916
00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:51,240
no I press one second hello okay I think

917
00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:53,230
what is happening is I'm actually

918
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:55,270
getting some echo back through my

919
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:57,250
effects processor and that's where we're

920
00:42:01,170 --> 00:41:58,720
getting the echo so I actually had

921
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:01,180
turned down that channel while you were

922
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:04,569
speaking okay so this is actually coming

923
00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:06,160
from Mark Neville and this is with

924
00:42:11,309 --> 00:42:09,880
regards to the the nature of the beings

925
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:11,319
themselves and the dimension that they

926
00:42:15,690 --> 00:42:14,049
come and he's asking whether they know

927
00:42:17,339 --> 00:42:15,700
that they can't act is that because

928
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:17,349
they're working on us on a different

929
00:42:22,410 --> 00:42:19,450
time frequency like they're slightly out

930
00:42:25,890 --> 00:42:22,420
of phase with us yes on the material

931
00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:25,900
side indication is a fully ascended

932
00:42:30,660 --> 00:42:28,960
universe has no ability to act because

933
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:30,670
they have no moment of time to act in

934
00:42:37,740 --> 00:42:34,480
okay okay so time is moving so ultra

935
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:37,750
quickly there that there's no

936
00:42:44,370 --> 00:42:42,490
opportunity to attract now this gets

937
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:44,380
into Condon later later on this again in

938
00:42:47,970 --> 00:42:46,720
the concepts of entanglement and things

939
00:42:52,610 --> 00:42:47,980
like that

940
00:42:57,870 --> 00:42:55,200
I'm getting ahead of myself but but

941
00:42:59,610 --> 00:42:57,880
basically the idea is that the

942
00:43:05,250 --> 00:42:59,620
non-material side when it's in its fully

943
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:05,260
assented form has an inability to act

944
00:43:11,370 --> 00:43:06,850
because of lack of time for and

945
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:11,380
quickness of timeframe mmm and did they

946
00:43:16,110 --> 00:43:13,930
try and explain this processor or how to

947
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:16,120
be able to understand it from our

948
00:43:20,610 --> 00:43:18,490
perspective or is this something that is

949
00:43:23,610 --> 00:43:20,620
so far beyond us that there's probably

950
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:23,620
no chance that we would have the ability

951
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:28,210
to perceive or gain some type of clarity

952
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:30,490
for that that's a very interesting

953
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:33,810
question because the Dogon priests admit

954
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:37,390
that they fib about certain things to

955
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:39,610
protect inner secrets of their tradition

956
00:43:46,650 --> 00:43:43,440
as an example the Dogon the the most

957
00:43:48,890 --> 00:43:46,660
important celebration festival that the

958
00:43:53,660 --> 00:43:48,900
Dogon celebrate it's called the siggy

959
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:53,670
festival and that festival happens

960
00:44:00,090 --> 00:43:56,110
sensibly it happens once every sixty

961
00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:00,100
years but in fact after fifty years past

962
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:01,990
the Dogon priests find a reason to make

963
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:04,690
it excute there they make an excuse to

964
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:06,850
make an exception and celebrate it after

965
00:44:12,060 --> 00:44:09,910
fifty years this one time what they do

966
00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:12,070
that every time and nobody lives long

967
00:44:16,590 --> 00:44:14,470
enough to ever call them out about you

968
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:16,600
know very few people do and anybody who

969
00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:19,050
does live to see to siggy cycles is

970
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:22,960
treated with great respect and fanfare

971
00:44:30,260 --> 00:44:26,250
they're co-opted co-opted into not

972
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:33,270
now these fibs play out in several

973
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:37,210
important ways as it one of my concerns

974
00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:38,770
as I was studying these essential

975
00:44:43,530 --> 00:44:41,230
processes of matter was the further I

976
00:44:47,730 --> 00:44:43,540
got into it the more it looked to me as

977
00:44:49,490 --> 00:44:47,740
if the processes of matter that are

978
00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:49,500
supposed to be fundamentally unknowable

979
00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:52,780
look completely normal they live this

980
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:55,180
looks like a set of processes that are a

981
00:45:00,180 --> 00:44:58,000
play out in this play because this

982
00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:00,190
informat at all levels upward and down

983
00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:03,310
the scale this is there's an even fact

984
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:05,790
out what we call quantum weirdness this

985
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:07,650
is not an unknowable process it's a

986
00:45:13,420 --> 00:45:09,810
fundamentally knowable process well

987
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:13,430
recently I came across a book that

988
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:17,850
compares exoteric Buddhism with esoteric

989
00:45:22,370 --> 00:45:19,970
Buddhism and one of the features of

990
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:22,380
exoteric Buddhism which is Buddhism for

991
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:25,440
public discussion is that they represent

992
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:27,090
that the processes of creation are

993
00:45:32,060 --> 00:45:29,850
fundamentally unknowable in esoteric

994
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:32,070
Buddhism they admit that they're

995
00:45:36,130 --> 00:45:34,160
entirely knowable

996
00:45:39,730 --> 00:45:36,140
that's part of the reason I wanted to

997
00:45:41,950 --> 00:45:39,740
get this book out is because

998
00:45:44,590 --> 00:45:41,960
this is important information for us to

999
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:44,600
have to know you know that there are

1000
00:45:51,580 --> 00:45:46,640
some misconceptions that look like

1001
00:45:53,950 --> 00:45:51,590
they're being perpetuated students of

1002
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:53,960
astrophysics if they were to look at

1003
00:45:58,600 --> 00:45:55,250
these questions from a slightly

1004
00:45:59,920 --> 00:45:58,610
different perspective might come up with

1005
00:46:02,950 --> 00:45:59,930
a different set of answers for the

1006
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:02,960
problems of trying to solve even most

1007
00:46:09,220 --> 00:46:06,560
recently Einstein talked about something

1008
00:46:11,230 --> 00:46:09,230
called relativistic mass mass he

1009
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:11,240
actually only had only describes one

1010
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:16,910
type of mass mass increases with

1011
00:46:24,430 --> 00:46:22,250
acceleration and as mass increases time

1012
00:46:28,270 --> 00:46:24,440
for him slows that's relevance the the

1013
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:28,280
theory of relativity but in recent years

1014
00:46:33,340 --> 00:46:29,810
what they've been teaching students of

1015
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:33,350
astrophysics is a completely different

1016
00:46:39,730 --> 00:46:36,290
idea they're teaching them the concept

1017
00:46:43,330 --> 00:46:39,740
of I'm trying to think of what the

1018
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:43,340
proper term is it's the idea that mass

1019
00:46:49,390 --> 00:46:46,250
is inherent at all levels the potential

1020
00:46:52,930 --> 00:46:49,400
for mass is inherent at all levels this

1021
00:46:55,780 --> 00:46:52,940
would be if by comparison if we think of

1022
00:46:57,550 --> 00:46:55,790
increases in mass as being similar to

1023
00:47:01,960 --> 00:46:57,560
increases in water pressure as you get

1024
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:01,970
deeper in water the the difference in

1025
00:47:07,060 --> 00:47:04,250
these concepts of mass would be like

1026
00:47:09,130 --> 00:47:07,070
trying to argue that the water pressure

1027
00:47:12,580 --> 00:47:09,140
that you see at 15 feet in a pool of

1028
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:12,590
water is inherent in a puddle and it's

1029
00:47:17,410 --> 00:47:15,290
not anybody who's ever experienced a

1030
00:47:20,590 --> 00:47:17,420
puddle and dope to the bottom of a

1031
00:47:21,790 --> 00:47:20,600
swimming pool understands that the

1032
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:21,800
pressure that said the bottle in the

1033
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:23,330
pool is not something that exists in the

1034
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:25,730
puddle and it's the same way with mass

1035
00:47:31,450 --> 00:47:28,970
that if but if you're trying to to look

1036
00:47:34,210 --> 00:47:31,460
at questions of astrophysics not

1037
00:47:36,660 --> 00:47:34,220
understanding that time frame shifts

1038
00:47:38,190 --> 00:47:36,670
with mass

1039
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:38,200
you're not going to come up with the the

1040
00:47:41,549 --> 00:47:40,089
answers that the Dogon and the samkhya

1041
00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:41,559
tradition produced you get to come up

1042
00:47:44,430 --> 00:47:43,359
with with actually you're not going to

1043
00:47:46,289 --> 00:47:44,440
come up with an answer you're not going

1044
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,299
to come up with a workable answer in

1045
00:47:51,299 --> 00:47:48,640
this sort of happening at all all levels

1046
00:47:55,470 --> 00:47:51,309
of scientific research that connects to

1047
00:47:57,539 --> 00:47:55,480
these ancient questions is certain she

1048
00:48:00,000 --> 00:47:57,549
looks like deliberate shifting of

1049
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:00,010
Outlook it happens with Egyptian

1050
00:48:05,730 --> 00:48:02,730
language in the 1980s they reformulated

1051
00:48:07,950 --> 00:48:05,740
certain ways that Egyptian glyphs are

1052
00:48:11,039 --> 00:48:07,960
supposed to be pronounced and then that

1053
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:11,049
effect is to discount disconnect the

1054
00:48:15,690 --> 00:48:13,210
Egyptian hieroglyphic words from the

1055
00:48:17,339 --> 00:48:15,700
African words and Logan ears I mean I

1056
00:48:19,049 --> 00:48:17,349
don't think that was the intention but

1057
00:48:21,809 --> 00:48:19,059
that's one of the that outcomes is after

1058
00:48:23,279 --> 00:48:21,819
if I worked from the preferred Egyptian

1059
00:48:26,809 --> 00:48:23,289
hieroglyphic dictionary rather than

1060
00:48:32,070 --> 00:48:26,819
budges I wouldn't find the phonetic

1061
00:48:36,940 --> 00:48:34,860
Mandi for dealing with this type of

1062
00:48:39,370 --> 00:48:36,950
change in pressure for instance I know

1063
00:48:41,380 --> 00:48:39,380
that mark and and Chad had mentioned

1064
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:41,390
regarding time density at different

1065
00:48:47,110 --> 00:48:43,810
Exponential's exponential sacred

1066
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:47,120
iterations now likea three six nine for

1067
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:49,670
instance or the larger number is used to

1068
00:48:53,710 --> 00:48:52,310
describe the the Yuga cycle or the

1069
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:53,720
distance between the earth and the moon

1070
00:48:59,410 --> 00:48:56,720
and then the earth and the Sun you know

1071
00:49:02,320 --> 00:48:59,420
he's kind of saying like it's it's how

1072
00:49:05,890 --> 00:49:02,330
matter gets dense at sizes the different

1073
00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:05,900
sizes of an atom or molecules compared

1074
00:49:11,020 --> 00:49:08,630
to let's say you know but I should say

1075
00:49:13,780 --> 00:49:11,030
subatomic particles to to actual

1076
00:49:15,220 --> 00:49:13,790
particles to you know larger larger

1077
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:15,230
pieces of matter like let's say a piece

1078
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:19,010
of lint or or a virus for instance that

1079
00:49:24,250 --> 00:49:21,170
time is perceived differently at those

1080
00:49:25,330 --> 00:49:24,260
different iterations of matter so is is

1081
00:49:30,190 --> 00:49:25,340
this something that's similar even

1082
00:49:32,650 --> 00:49:30,200
across in their perception reality yeah

1083
00:49:34,780 --> 00:49:32,660
yes I mean this is partly why it looks

1084
00:49:38,020 --> 00:49:34,790
to scientists a couple of examples I'll

1085
00:49:39,370 --> 00:49:38,030
give you scientists with more and more

1086
00:49:40,780 --> 00:49:39,380
capable telescopes have been looking

1087
00:49:43,450 --> 00:49:40,790
farther and farther back into the

1088
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:43,460
history of the universe the fact I've

1089
00:49:47,650 --> 00:49:45,110
been looking effectively they're looking

1090
00:49:50,410 --> 00:49:47,660
back a few a million years after the Big

1091
00:49:52,990 --> 00:49:50,420
Bang and what they're noticing is it

1092
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:53,000
looks like the rate at which the

1093
00:49:57,820 --> 00:49:54,890
universe is expanding has been

1094
00:49:59,260 --> 00:49:57,830
increasing it's getting faster and they

1095
00:50:00,730 --> 00:49:59,270
can't fathom that they say how could

1096
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:00,740
that possibly be how can I be getting

1097
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:02,510
faster and they're postulating things

1098
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:05,090
like dark energy to explain what's

1099
00:50:09,010 --> 00:50:07,610
pushing it to accelerate it what they

1100
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:09,020
don't understand is that from the

1101
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:10,910
songket perspective what they're seeing

1102
00:50:16,980 --> 00:50:13,490
is the slowing of the time frame of our

1103
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:16,990
universe they're not seeing the

1104
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:19,760
expansion happen more quickly they're

1105
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:23,570
seeing our our time frame from which we

1106
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:29,760
so yes these things affect perception at

1107
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:31,330
all levels a part of the reason why it

1108
00:50:36,450 --> 00:50:34,240
looks like some of the elemental

1109
00:50:38,580 --> 00:50:36,460
particles only exist for a fraction of a

1110
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:38,590
second is because of a difference in

1111
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:49,680
part of the reason that the processes of

1112
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:51,130
the quantum world look like they're

1113
00:50:56,010 --> 00:50:53,770
random to us I believe is because of

1114
00:50:57,630 --> 00:50:56,020
this difference in timeframe the prior

1115
00:50:59,970 --> 00:50:57,640
that's the fundamental problem is we

1116
00:51:02,220 --> 00:50:59,980
don't have a tool that's refined enough

1117
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:02,230
to measure it and so it's like trying to

1118
00:51:08,910 --> 00:51:06,210
measure millimeters using a yardstick

1119
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:08,920
that if you're trying to do that you

1120
00:51:12,930 --> 00:51:10,960
don't have a precise way of predicting

1121
00:51:17,250 --> 00:51:12,940
where the things gonna pop up you're

1122
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:17,260
gonna be off by theoretical on average

1123
00:51:21,299 --> 00:51:19,839
and so it makes it look at the results

1124
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:21,309
look like they're random when in fact

1125
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:24,160
they're not random they're regular so

1126
00:51:29,940 --> 00:51:26,650
yeah that would be kind of whenever you

1127
00:51:31,650 --> 00:51:29,950
let's say get a very large number in you

1128
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:31,660
know very inexpensive calculators that

1129
00:51:38,130 --> 00:51:34,450
you had in grade school you know you

1130
00:51:40,770 --> 00:51:38,140
type in a very large calculation and all

1131
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:40,780
of a sudden you have you know just an e

1132
00:51:43,380 --> 00:51:41,890
which is basically saying it's an

1133
00:51:44,670 --> 00:51:43,390
exponential number I can't you know I

1134
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:44,680
can't display this I don't know how to

1135
00:51:48,210 --> 00:51:46,510
deal with this number that's kind of

1136
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:48,220
that essentially the same effect right

1137
00:51:53,849 --> 00:51:52,210
okay and it ends up looking like certain

1138
00:51:56,849 --> 00:51:53,859
processes are random that I believe

1139
00:51:59,819 --> 00:51:56,859
aren't random it looks to me as if we

1140
00:52:01,650 --> 00:51:59,829
have a regular set of dynamics from the

1141
00:52:06,690 --> 00:52:01,660
very bottom level all the way up to the

1142
00:52:09,089 --> 00:52:06,700
very top that function in parallel ways

1143
00:52:11,370 --> 00:52:09,099
to each other if not precisely the same

1144
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:11,380
way at every level certainly in parallel

1145
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:13,450
and so one of the beauties of this

1146
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:16,720
system of cosmology which arrests these

1147
00:52:22,170 --> 00:52:19,210
um these themes of cosmology that rests

1148
00:52:24,660 --> 00:52:22,180
on parallelism is that if you understand

1149
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:24,670
how a certain process works in the

1150
00:52:30,990 --> 00:52:28,930
microcosm but macrocosmic equivalent you

1151
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:31,000
know the counterpart to that is so big

1152
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:33,910
that we can't observe it what happened

1153
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:35,910
to the microcosm gives us a way of

1154
00:52:42,030 --> 00:52:39,010
guessing what the macrocosmic effect is

1155
00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:42,040
or vice versa that because i'm the dogon

1156
00:52:48,329 --> 00:52:45,369
deliberately point us to this spiral at

1157
00:52:50,940 --> 00:52:48,339
a ryan called Barnard's loop as a

1158
00:52:52,740 --> 00:52:50,950
macrocosmic example of what the tiny

1159
00:52:55,650 --> 00:52:52,750
spiral of matter that exists at every

1160
00:52:57,420 --> 00:52:55,660
point in space and time is like and the

1161
00:52:59,830 --> 00:52:57,430
dynamics of the two are the same the

1162
00:53:02,080 --> 00:52:59,840
dogon described the dynamics of the

1163
00:53:03,790 --> 00:53:02,090
spiral and when we look at the

1164
00:53:06,460 --> 00:53:03,800
scientific description of Barnard's loop

1165
00:53:08,170 --> 00:53:06,470
you discover it's its word for word what

1166
00:53:10,289 --> 00:53:08,180
the Dogon say is happening with the tiny

1167
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:10,299
spiral

1168
00:53:18,479 --> 00:53:14,609
oh so this power of inference is a huge

1169
00:53:20,969 --> 00:53:18,489
hugely powerful tool it allows us to

1170
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:20,979
infer from what we do know something we

1171
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:22,689
don't know where we're gonna start

1172
00:53:28,949 --> 00:53:24,130
getting into ed nightingales work with

1173
00:53:31,919 --> 00:53:28,959
this one overlaps mine and I mean our to

1174
00:53:33,449 --> 00:53:31,929
work our work overlaps each other pretty

1175
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:33,459
substantially we work together that's

1176
00:53:37,799 --> 00:53:34,689
part of the reason why we work together

1177
00:53:39,689 --> 00:53:37,809
on his book he had put 20 years of

1178
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:39,699
research and effort into his material

1179
00:53:45,390 --> 00:53:41,920
and was we're all ready to produce a

1180
00:53:46,469 --> 00:53:45,400
book and all he needed was a little bit

1181
00:53:48,979 --> 00:53:46,479
of encouragement for somebody who

1182
00:53:53,219 --> 00:53:48,989
understood what he was talking about and

1183
00:53:55,049 --> 00:53:53,229
my wife Reese and I have language skills

1184
00:53:58,019 --> 00:53:55,059
because we both majored in English at

1185
00:54:00,660 --> 00:53:58,029
Vassar College and so being able to

1186
00:54:02,429 --> 00:54:00,670
apply some of the writing skills to what

1187
00:54:06,509 --> 00:54:02,439
he'd already put down on paper it helped

1188
00:54:08,249 --> 00:54:06,519
him finish his book and just be able to

1189
00:54:11,219 --> 00:54:08,259
give an idea of for anybody out there

1190
00:54:15,179 --> 00:54:11,229
who's seen one of our ed Nightingale

1191
00:54:17,219 --> 00:54:15,189
episodes it can get a little information

1192
00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:17,229
heavy even with the visuals and that's

1193
00:54:21,479 --> 00:54:19,089
because it's a very complicated subject

1194
00:54:22,949 --> 00:54:21,489
that we're trying to distill down and to

1195
00:54:24,859 --> 00:54:22,959
into something that we can understand

1196
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:24,869
it's even fur for your average layperson

1197
00:54:30,809 --> 00:54:29,170
like myself and you know Marcus saying

1198
00:54:34,229 --> 00:54:30,819
something very interesting which is

1199
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:34,239
that's you know we're discussing time

1200
00:54:37,620 --> 00:54:36,160
scales with particles and that if we're

1201
00:54:39,569 --> 00:54:37,630
using certain to find fundamental

1202
00:54:41,969 --> 00:54:39,579
particles that exist for like a

1203
00:54:43,319 --> 00:54:41,979
nanosecond we're essentially seeing the

1204
00:54:45,689 --> 00:54:43,329
birth and death of our universe and

1205
00:54:48,329 --> 00:54:45,699
super rapid motion if you put it that

1206
00:54:50,489 --> 00:54:48,339
way which right potentially we are if

1207
00:54:53,759 --> 00:54:50,499
you had the right correlate to what a

1208
00:54:56,370 --> 00:54:53,769
universe is you could make inferences

1209
00:54:58,049 --> 00:54:56,380
about what happens to it on the basis of

1210
00:55:00,179 --> 00:54:58,059
the microcosm yes that's that's the way

1211
00:55:03,949 --> 00:55:00,189
the system works and actually there are

1212
00:55:07,410 --> 00:55:03,959
parallels to biology to now what is the

1213
00:55:11,069 --> 00:55:07,420
purpose of inferring this information to

1214
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:11,079
to you know people our culture that is

1215
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:12,729
so far removed from what we actually

1216
00:55:18,989 --> 00:55:16,410
know from a while I'm not going to say

1217
00:55:22,259 --> 00:55:18,999
civilized society in terms of our time

1218
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:22,269
frame but back then you know all around

1219
00:55:24,809 --> 00:55:23,410
the world

1220
00:55:26,279 --> 00:55:24,819
theoretically some some mainstream

1221
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:26,289
scientists would say we were just

1222
00:55:30,779 --> 00:55:27,609
throwing sticks and rocks at each other

1223
00:55:34,349 --> 00:55:30,789
so right that's right let me give you

1224
00:55:36,749 --> 00:55:34,359
the mindset for the motivation behind

1225
00:55:42,180 --> 00:55:36,759
all this because it to me it's a

1226
00:55:45,569 --> 00:55:42,190
compelling one this cycle the scrolling

1227
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:45,579
cycle of energy is one that repeats that

1228
00:55:50,910 --> 00:55:49,210
and the energy and this is cross

1229
00:55:52,140 --> 00:55:50,920
confirmed in several traditions

1230
00:55:53,999 --> 00:55:52,150
capitalism has it

1231
00:55:56,910 --> 00:55:54,009
the Dogon have it the Egyptians have it

1232
00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:56,920
the Buddhist habit it's in the Indian

1233
00:56:02,190 --> 00:55:58,930
traditions in samkhya we have cross

1234
00:56:05,460 --> 00:56:02,200
confirming statements about this this

1235
00:56:07,859 --> 00:56:05,470
scrolling of energy it Scrolls out to a

1236
00:56:09,870 --> 00:56:07,869
certain limit or extent and then it

1237
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:09,880
reverses itself and Scrolls back and

1238
00:56:14,370 --> 00:56:12,130
this is a cycle that goes on and on and

1239
00:56:17,279 --> 00:56:14,380
on and on so we're not talking about a

1240
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:17,289
non material universe and the material

1241
00:56:22,499 --> 00:56:19,839
universe where the non material is prior

1242
00:56:24,839 --> 00:56:22,509
to the material we're talking about two

1243
00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:24,849
universes that alternate between being

1244
00:56:29,579 --> 00:56:27,849
the less material and the more material

1245
00:56:32,489 --> 00:56:29,589
and so the one that's less material now

1246
00:56:35,630 --> 00:56:32,499
will find itself 12,000 years from now

1247
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:39,290
these are treated as siblings or as

1248
00:56:45,110 --> 00:56:42,480
companions in the mindset of the

1249
00:56:47,720 --> 00:56:45,120
cosmology and the interface between the

1250
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:47,730
two is characterized as a loving embrace

1251
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:51,090
a fleck of familial a familial loving

1252
00:56:55,340 --> 00:56:53,010
embrace between siblings or it's

1253
00:56:58,850 --> 00:56:55,350
characterized as two companions that

1254
00:57:01,370 --> 00:56:58,860
walk side by side now what happens from

1255
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:01,380
what I understand is that about a third

1256
00:57:06,650 --> 00:57:03,330
of the way into the process the

1257
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:06,660
ascending process when the four the

1258
00:57:11,870 --> 00:57:08,510
universe that is becoming less massive

1259
00:57:14,090 --> 00:57:11,880
it figures out where the trend is

1260
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:14,100
leading the tread trend is leading to a

1261
00:57:19,340 --> 00:57:18,000
point where as we described the the not

1262
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:19,350
mature universe will have perfect

1263
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:22,490
knowledge but an inability to act now

1264
00:57:29,450 --> 00:57:25,440
that kind of a state exists for a person

1265
00:57:32,270 --> 00:57:29,460
it's called locked-in syndrome there was

1266
00:57:33,860 --> 00:57:32,280
a very famous book that was also made

1267
00:57:36,590 --> 00:57:33,870
into a movie called the diving bell and

1268
00:57:39,830 --> 00:57:36,600
the butterfly it's about a man in France

1269
00:57:41,810 --> 00:57:39,840
who suffered a stroke at the wheel of

1270
00:57:43,970 --> 00:57:41,820
his car and they thought he was brain

1271
00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:43,980
dead and they took him home to care for

1272
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:45,780
his brain dead body all they could do

1273
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:48,210
was blink his eyes and somehow he

1274
00:57:51,620 --> 00:57:50,130
managed to communicate to his caretaker

1275
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:51,630
that he was still in there he was so

1276
00:57:57,740 --> 00:57:55,290
conscious and so this character work

1277
00:57:59,780 --> 00:57:57,750
assist him where he could link one

1278
00:58:01,910 --> 00:57:59,790
letter at a time indicate a letter by

1279
00:58:03,170 --> 00:58:01,920
blinking and he ended up writing this

1280
00:58:05,330 --> 00:58:03,180
entire book one letter at a time

1281
00:58:07,550 --> 00:58:05,340
basically

1282
00:58:09,470 --> 00:58:07,560
so the non-material universe okay that

1283
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:09,480
situation until you have a compatriot

1284
00:58:15,380 --> 00:58:12,210
who knows you're there it's an extremely

1285
00:58:17,690 --> 00:58:15,390
desperate situation it's essentially

1286
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:17,700
being buried alive and nobody knows

1287
00:58:22,370 --> 00:58:19,890
you're there the problem for the

1288
00:58:23,870 --> 00:58:22,380
non-material universe is that at the

1289
00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:23,880
same point where it's going to be locked

1290
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:26,310
in it understands that the material

1291
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:28,050
universe is going to be the most removed

1292
00:58:35,060 --> 00:58:31,650
from its ability to perceive it and so

1293
00:58:37,310 --> 00:58:35,070
the only possible compatriot it has for

1294
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:37,320
when it's locked in is not going to even

1295
00:58:42,589 --> 00:58:39,569
know that it's there

1296
00:58:45,579 --> 00:58:42,599
and so without material side decides

1297
00:58:48,979 --> 00:58:45,589
we're gonna set up a structure for

1298
00:58:50,719 --> 00:58:48,989
society on the material side that will

1299
00:58:52,339 --> 00:58:50,729
preserve knowledge on the material side

1300
00:58:54,019 --> 00:58:52,349
of the fact that we're here so when we

1301
00:58:56,539 --> 00:58:54,029
need that compete career we have it and

1302
00:58:58,209 --> 00:58:56,549
so that all these little incidental

1303
00:59:00,259 --> 00:58:58,219
communications what look like

1304
00:59:02,059 --> 00:59:00,269
coincidences will be understood to be

1305
00:59:04,849 --> 00:59:02,069
attempts at communicating these eye

1306
00:59:06,759 --> 00:59:04,859
blinks will be understood to be an

1307
00:59:10,370 --> 00:59:06,769
attempt to communicate something and

1308
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:10,380
certain people learn to pay attention to

1309
00:59:14,809 --> 00:59:12,690
these little things that other people

1310
00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:14,819
think discount they discount them as

1311
00:59:20,959 --> 00:59:18,569
being just you know either nothing or

1312
00:59:24,259 --> 00:59:20,969
they they dismiss them as not having any

1313
00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:24,269
significance but for those people who

1314
00:59:28,939 --> 00:59:25,680
happen to pick up on the fact that

1315
00:59:31,459 --> 00:59:28,949
there's a pattern and start to pay

1316
00:59:33,469 --> 00:59:31,469
attention to them those people become

1317
00:59:34,939 --> 00:59:33,479
the focus of the communication they draw

1318
00:59:36,499 --> 00:59:34,949
more of the communication to them

1319
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:36,509
because here is a person who's a

1320
00:59:42,469 --> 00:59:39,599
potential capade reott the esoteric

1321
00:59:45,289 --> 00:59:42,479
tradition is designed in a way that

1322
00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:45,299
mimics that dynamic but it's also

1323
00:59:50,329 --> 00:59:48,329
designed to automatically filter out the

1324
00:59:54,109 --> 00:59:50,339
sincere people from the insincere ones

1325
00:59:56,809 --> 00:59:54,119
only the ones who are truly sincere who

1326
00:59:58,759 --> 00:59:56,819
are truly dedicated to understanding how

1327
01:00:01,699 --> 00:59:58,769
the process works are the ones who get

1328
01:00:03,289 --> 01:00:01,709
through and so the idea was that by the

1329
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:03,299
time we reach the end of the cycle you

1330
01:00:08,900 --> 01:00:06,930
would have this body of attuned people

1331
01:00:11,809 --> 01:00:08,910
who understand the non-material universe

1332
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:11,819
is there who are will be sincere careful

1333
01:00:16,170 --> 01:00:13,410
caretakers of that non material

1334
01:00:22,470 --> 01:00:20,099
yep this is a mutual concern it's as

1335
01:00:24,030 --> 01:00:22,480
vital to the non-material side more

1336
01:00:26,790 --> 01:00:24,040
vital to the not material side than the

1337
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:26,800
material side arguably except for the

1338
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:28,450
fact that the material side will find

1339
01:00:33,390 --> 01:00:30,730
itself at the same situation in a few

1340
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:33,400
thousand years but for our side why

1341
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:35,710
would that matter if if we are late is

1342
01:00:39,089 --> 01:00:37,599
our universe gonna end or are you saying

1343
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:39,099
that in like 6,000 years we're gonna

1344
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:42,010
blink out of existence nobody knows for

1345
01:00:50,250 --> 01:00:46,089
sure what happens at the middle of the

1346
01:00:52,620 --> 01:00:50,260
cycle when the scrolling stops and if

1347
01:00:54,990 --> 01:00:52,630
the process reverses itself we're not

1348
01:00:57,390 --> 01:00:55,000
sure what happens the dynamic is the

1349
01:01:00,660 --> 01:00:57,400
dynamic of what's called a dipole this

1350
01:01:03,799 --> 01:01:00,670
is the the dynamic of a magnet it's a

1351
01:01:08,270 --> 01:01:03,809
dynamic of gravity it's a magnetic

1352
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:08,280
dynamic of certain electromagnetic

1353
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:11,650
processes nobody is sure in terms of

1354
01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:15,250
universes okay the process is basically

1355
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:19,569
to two poles that draw together unite

1356
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:22,569
and then reverse nobody's sure what

1357
01:01:28,349 --> 01:01:26,410
happens when they unite we might be

1358
01:01:29,579 --> 01:01:28,359
facing a situation where everything is

1359
01:01:32,010 --> 01:01:29,589
destroyed and then it has to be rebuilt

1360
01:01:34,829 --> 01:01:32,020
again we might be facing a situation

1361
01:01:39,630 --> 01:01:34,839
where it just passes by and you know we

1362
01:01:42,420 --> 01:01:39,640
noticed some odd effect but no no damage

1363
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:42,430
happens nobody really knows for sure and

1364
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:45,280
the references from the ancient cultures

1365
01:01:52,349 --> 01:01:50,250
are not absolutely clear about this

1366
01:01:54,839 --> 01:01:52,359
there are there's lots of discussion

1367
01:01:57,900 --> 01:01:54,849
about reversals there's a suggestion

1368
01:01:59,660 --> 01:01:57,910
that periodically the the axis of the

1369
01:02:02,760 --> 01:01:59,670
tilt of the axis of the earth flips and

1370
01:02:05,849 --> 01:02:02,770
that may be a consequence of that kind

1371
01:02:07,230 --> 01:02:05,859
of yes no I'm the Egyptian said that

1372
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:07,240
three times in their cultural memory

1373
01:02:11,819 --> 01:02:09,670
that happened now is this is this a

1374
01:02:13,260 --> 01:02:11,829
process that just happens here on this

1375
01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:13,270
or on this earth because I know that

1376
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:15,190
we're supposed to be coming close to a

1377
01:02:20,970 --> 01:02:18,490
pole shift at some point the North Pole

1378
01:02:22,940 --> 01:02:20,980
is in the South Pole or our changing

1379
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:22,950
positions right now the North Pole is

1380
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:24,640
somewhere in the middle of the Arctic

1381
01:02:27,450 --> 01:02:26,290
Ocean and it's moving more towards

1382
01:02:31,710 --> 01:02:27,460
Russia as

1383
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:31,720
time goes on right is is this something

1384
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:33,970
that is related to that or is this just

1385
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:36,850
a natural process of magnetism on on our

1386
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:37,890
plane of existence

1387
01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:40,330
no this is a process that happens

1388
01:02:45,690 --> 01:02:43,510
universally it happens on all levels it

1389
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:45,700
happens at the level of light light

1390
01:02:54,570 --> 01:02:49,090
functions as a dipole it happens on the

1391
01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:54,580
level of galaxy clusters it happens from

1392
01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:58,050
what I can tell on the level of vs. and

1393
01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:00,400
every level up and down the scale that

1394
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:02,500
is my belief is it happens on the level

1395
01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:04,690
of consciousness that the underlying

1396
01:03:15,650 --> 01:03:12,180
so this is an effect that may only be

1397
01:03:20,299 --> 01:03:15,660
felt locally at a particular time but

1398
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:20,309
that is experienced globally

1399
01:03:28,890 --> 01:03:25,210
and how is this related to you know

1400
01:03:29,849 --> 01:03:28,900
concepts such as let's say and I know

1401
01:03:32,839 --> 01:03:29,859
that it's mentioned in the book the

1402
01:03:37,339 --> 01:03:32,849
primordial scroll as well as the

1403
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:37,349
primordial individual is is this idea of

1404
01:03:46,740 --> 01:03:41,530
you know of dipole related to that and

1405
01:03:52,670 --> 01:03:46,750
in consciousness itself yes in a

1406
01:04:02,690 --> 01:03:59,089
okay in Dogon numerology three is the

1407
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:02,700
number of the male four is the number of

1408
01:04:09,500 --> 01:04:06,930
the female now three connects to three

1409
01:04:13,789 --> 01:04:09,510
branches of a y-chromosome which is

1410
01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:13,799
associated with male biologically four I

1411
01:04:18,019 --> 01:04:16,079
associate with the four branches of an X

1412
01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:18,029
chromosome which associates with a woman

1413
01:04:27,650 --> 01:04:22,470
a female biologically seven is the

1414
01:04:30,140 --> 01:04:27,660
number of endo now one of the things the

1415
01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:30,150
this ancient system of cosmology is

1416
01:04:34,789 --> 01:04:32,809
trying to foster in humanity is

1417
01:04:37,220 --> 01:04:34,799
something called discriminating

1418
01:04:39,230 --> 01:04:37,230
knowledge which really involves the

1419
01:04:41,450 --> 01:04:39,240
ability to draw an inference from a set

1420
01:04:44,839 --> 01:04:41,460
of facts and so very often what you'll

1421
01:04:46,430 --> 01:04:44,849
see is that that well these these

1422
01:04:50,140 --> 01:04:46,440
cultures that preserve this tradition

1423
01:04:52,370 --> 01:04:50,150
will provide you with three or four

1424
01:04:54,980 --> 01:04:52,380
statements of fact that are parallel to

1425
01:04:57,049 --> 01:04:54,990
some other set of facts you know but not

1426
01:04:58,849 --> 01:04:57,059
give you the fifth one with the

1427
01:05:00,349 --> 01:04:58,859
expectation that you're going to infer

1428
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:00,359
that fifth one knowing that there's

1429
01:05:05,580 --> 01:05:02,890
parallelism amount involved

1430
01:05:08,070 --> 01:05:05,590
so there are also reversals and

1431
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:08,080
symbolism that happen that if you think

1432
01:05:13,250 --> 01:05:10,210
about it towards the middle of the

1433
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:13,260
scrolling energy cycle

1434
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:16,050
the universe that was less material

1435
01:05:23,060 --> 01:05:19,760
suddenly becomes more material and so

1436
01:05:25,970 --> 01:05:23,070
symbols that in archaic time in the

1437
01:05:28,310 --> 01:05:25,980
archaic times a circle was

1438
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:28,320
representative of the earth a circle is

1439
01:05:33,470 --> 01:05:30,210
also representative of the non material

1440
01:05:37,310 --> 01:05:33,480
universe but midway through the cycle

1441
01:05:40,940 --> 01:05:37,320
sometime after 4000 BC suddenly a square

1442
01:05:43,370 --> 01:05:40,950
becomes the symbol of the earth

1443
01:05:46,780 --> 01:05:43,380
which is associated with the material

1444
01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:46,790
universe and cultures all over the world

1445
01:05:54,140 --> 01:05:50,310
you can see the switchover from one

1446
01:05:57,109 --> 01:05:54,150
symbol from from an archaic symbol to a

1447
01:05:59,800 --> 01:05:57,119
more recent ancient symbol form all at

1448
01:06:04,740 --> 01:05:59,810
about the same time

1449
01:06:06,940 --> 01:06:04,750
my understanding why that happens is be

1450
01:06:08,500 --> 01:06:06,950
through the scrolling of energy the

1451
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:08,510
inner the universe that was not mature

1452
01:06:11,590 --> 01:06:09,890
or was less material suddenly is now

1453
01:06:12,790 --> 01:06:11,600
more material and so the symbol that

1454
01:06:14,890 --> 01:06:12,800
applied to it before doesn't apply

1455
01:06:17,860 --> 01:06:14,900
anymore you got to use your now got to

1456
01:06:21,460 --> 01:06:17,870
sit your switch your your symbolism

1457
01:06:23,110 --> 01:06:21,470
because you're no longer it's like a e

1458
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:23,120
trading trading seats with somebody in a

1459
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:25,250
theater you'd want to switch tickets to

1460
01:06:30,370 --> 01:06:27,110
show that you belong in the seats you're

1461
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:30,380
in it's like people who fly across the

1462
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:31,910
country on the plane switching their

1463
01:06:36,820 --> 01:06:34,450
watch setting it back three hours

1464
01:06:38,620 --> 01:06:36,830
because they understand the time zones

1465
01:06:41,350 --> 01:06:38,630
different on the west coast than it is

1466
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:42,670
that's the sort of thing that's

1467
01:06:49,390 --> 01:06:46,130
happening with symbolic reversals so now

1468
01:06:51,820 --> 01:06:49,400
in the non-maturity universe we're told

1469
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:51,830
that the material universe is the number

1470
01:06:59,860 --> 01:06:56,890
of the material universe is 4 now 4 is a

1471
01:07:01,990 --> 01:06:59,870
dimensional number basically and relates

1472
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:02,000
four dimensions but the number of the

1473
01:07:07,780 --> 01:07:03,290
material universes that we're told by

1474
01:07:11,890 --> 01:07:07,790
doggin is for the implication that we're

1475
01:07:16,020 --> 01:07:11,900
supposed to infer from that is that the

1476
01:07:18,090 --> 01:07:16,030
number of the non-material verse is 3

1477
01:07:19,770 --> 01:07:18,100
now material universe there's been

1478
01:07:21,690 --> 01:07:19,780
reversals here not material universe

1479
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:21,700
right now is feminine and the material

1480
01:07:25,380 --> 01:07:23,710
is masculine but you take those two

1481
01:07:29,460 --> 01:07:25,390
numbers and you put them together and

1482
01:07:32,070 --> 01:07:29,470
the suggestion is that both universes

1483
01:07:34,290 --> 01:07:32,080
together represent an individual and in

1484
01:07:36,180 --> 01:07:34,300
fact the concept of a primordial

1485
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:36,190
individual is one of the exists in all

1486
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:38,110
these traditions I've been comparing its

1487
01:07:44,250 --> 01:07:40,960
central to Aqaba lism it's central to

1488
01:07:47,250 --> 01:07:44,260
ancient Egypt there are the budge lists

1489
01:07:53,150 --> 01:07:47,260
a word for the spiritual body of a man

1490
01:07:59,630 --> 01:07:55,910
so the dynamic that exists between these

1491
01:08:01,130 --> 01:07:59,640
two universes the the indication is to

1492
01:08:03,230 --> 01:08:01,140
be asking whether the dynamic that

1493
01:08:06,339 --> 01:08:03,240
exists between the two universes is

1494
01:08:09,499 --> 01:08:06,349
comparable to the dynamics that happens

1495
01:08:11,390 --> 01:08:09,509
within an individual in other words that

1496
01:08:11,749 --> 01:08:11,400
dynamics between say two hemispheres of

1497
01:08:13,940 --> 01:08:11,759
the brain

1498
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:13,950
in fact the symbol of the hemispheres

1499
01:08:19,970 --> 01:08:16,799
used to represent the material universe

1500
01:08:22,010 --> 01:08:19,980
so we already have parallelism between

1501
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:22,020
those concepts had some atmosphere of a

1502
01:08:28,579 --> 01:08:24,719
brain and then we're observing a

1503
01:08:31,129 --> 01:08:28,589
universe as it turns out those dynamics

1504
01:08:36,010 --> 01:08:31,139
are very similar one the non mature

1505
01:08:38,450 --> 01:08:36,020
universe because of the way time works I

1506
01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:38,460
have to rewind here again and and

1507
01:08:47,209 --> 01:08:41,520
explain another concept time in the

1508
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:47,219
period it's treated as an arrow the

1509
01:08:52,879 --> 01:08:49,770
shadow is produced in a Sun Dial is like

1510
01:08:56,329 --> 01:08:52,889
an error or a scepter or an air time

1511
01:08:59,539 --> 01:08:56,339
flows linearly and we measure it in

1512
01:09:03,340 --> 01:08:59,549
moments or what the ancient cultures are

1513
01:09:07,150 --> 01:09:04,840
it's a correlate to the way time is

1514
01:09:09,070 --> 01:09:07,160
measured during the daytime on earth

1515
01:09:12,220 --> 01:09:09,080
that's what the sundial does the sundial

1516
01:09:14,380 --> 01:09:12,230
can measure hours of the day during

1517
01:09:16,810 --> 01:09:14,390
daylight it can't measure anything at

1518
01:09:18,610 --> 01:09:16,820
night at night how they measure time was

1519
01:09:23,260 --> 01:09:18,620
by the rising of whole constellations

1520
01:09:26,110 --> 01:09:23,270
that equates to ancient concepts of non

1521
01:09:29,140 --> 01:09:26,120
material time being experienced as what

1522
01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:29,150
are called glances not glimpses larger

1523
01:09:34,900 --> 01:09:32,560
unit the plant there's a suggestion that

1524
01:09:37,420 --> 01:09:34,910
during the scrolling cycle there are

1525
01:09:39,460 --> 01:09:37,430
different increments of time that can be

1526
01:09:41,260 --> 01:09:39,470
experienced on the non-material side

1527
01:09:42,930 --> 01:09:41,270
that's changing constantly it's also

1528
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:42,940
changing constantly on the material side

1529
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:45,770
but it ends up on the non-material side

1530
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:48,170
so that it's been so reduced as to

1531
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:51,920
effectively not have a moment of time so

1532
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:54,170
time measured at night on the earth in

1533
01:09:57,310 --> 01:09:55,850
ancient cultures is a correlate to how

1534
01:10:00,100 --> 01:09:57,320
time is experience on the non-material

1535
01:10:03,130 --> 01:10:00,110
side measured during the daylight is a

1536
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:03,140
Korell to time as as experience on the

1537
01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:06,290
material side and the whole process is a

1538
01:10:11,770 --> 01:10:08,480
correlate to how a half spin particle

1539
01:10:13,690 --> 01:10:11,780
functions you have a process during

1540
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:13,700
daylight that you can see in a process

1541
01:10:25,610 --> 01:10:21,490
in capitalism the scrolling energy is

1542
01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:25,620
symbolized by a Torah scroll that what

1543
01:10:32,150 --> 01:10:28,880
happens with Torah scrolls is that every

1544
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:32,160
Jewish temple in the world reads the

1545
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:33,930
same portion of the Old Testament which

1546
01:10:39,860 --> 01:10:38,010
is what the Torah scroll represents each

1547
01:10:42,410 --> 01:10:39,870
day they read a portion and it's the

1548
01:10:44,540 --> 01:10:42,420
same portion in every temple and it's

1549
01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:44,550
measured out so that by the end of the

1550
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:46,800
year they've read the entire Torah

1551
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:48,510
scroll it's all been transferred from

1552
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:51,210
one side to the other and at the end of

1553
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:52,650
the year then they rewind the squirrel

1554
01:10:59,709 --> 01:10:55,110
that's a metaphor for the way this

1555
01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:01,450
you

1556
01:11:04,589 --> 01:11:03,070
sorry I'm just

1557
01:11:06,270 --> 01:11:04,599
processing the the information that

1558
01:11:10,770 --> 01:11:06,280
you're giving me here because it's it

1559
01:11:15,209 --> 01:11:10,780
seems as if you are essentially

1560
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:15,219
describing two halves to a whole yin and

1561
01:11:25,620 --> 01:11:19,510
a yang which again I'm not too up on my

1562
01:11:27,510 --> 01:11:25,630
Eastern philosophy but you know I I know

1563
01:11:28,140 --> 01:11:27,520
that there are things like I chain for

1564
01:11:30,359 --> 01:11:28,150
instance

1565
01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:30,369
that that are inferred to that have

1566
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:35,199
certain yes it's it's the same thing the

1567
01:11:41,300 --> 01:11:37,210
the symbol of the II Ching or the

1568
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:41,310
yin-yang symbol is corresponds to that

1569
01:11:47,419 --> 01:11:43,810
dynamic of a dipole but it also

1570
01:11:51,020 --> 01:11:47,429
corresponds the idea of light and dark

1571
01:11:53,879 --> 01:11:51,030
interfacing with each other in in cycle

1572
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:53,889
all of these things are metaphor is for

1573
01:11:58,140 --> 01:11:56,050
the same thing now the next level of

1574
01:12:01,859 --> 01:11:58,150
understanding here is is thing one

1575
01:12:06,050 --> 01:12:01,869
because the non material universe is

1576
01:12:08,339 --> 01:12:06,060
characterized as a sleeping goddess the

1577
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:08,349
processes of material creation are

1578
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:12,250
characterized as an awakening it turns

1579
01:12:16,919 --> 01:12:15,010
out that the energetic dynamic that's

1580
01:12:19,319 --> 01:12:16,929
being described between the non material

1581
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:19,329
and the material universe is almost

1582
01:12:23,430 --> 01:12:21,130
precisely the same energetic dynamic

1583
01:12:28,620 --> 01:12:23,440
that happens during a sleep cycle for a

1584
01:12:31,109 --> 01:12:28,630
person oh [\h__\h] excuse me now so oh [\h__\h]

1585
01:12:32,879 --> 01:12:31,119
there may be a literal level where we

1586
01:12:35,910 --> 01:12:32,889
have a sleep cycle going on here one

1587
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:35,920
universe essentially being asleep at the

1588
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:38,170
time the other one isn't now in dolphins

1589
01:12:43,140 --> 01:12:39,730
dolphins experience what's called

1590
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:43,150
unihemispheric sleep 1/2 the brain sleep

1591
01:12:48,050 --> 01:12:46,570
those 1/2 is away and the dynamic is

1592
01:12:50,129 --> 01:12:48,060
very similar to what we're seeing

1593
01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:50,139
described here between the universe's

1594
01:12:56,939 --> 01:12:53,920
even down to little spirals of energy

1595
01:12:58,580 --> 01:12:56,949
that pass from one side of the brain to

1596
01:13:01,950 --> 01:12:58,590
the other side during the sleep cycle

1597
01:13:04,379 --> 01:13:01,960
also in a human the four stages of a

1598
01:13:07,169 --> 01:13:04,389
sleep cycle which end with the stage of

1599
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:07,179
REM sleep where the person is has

1600
01:13:12,149 --> 01:13:10,480
consciousness but can't move these are

1601
01:13:13,919 --> 01:13:12,159
correlates to the four stages of the

1602
01:13:19,370 --> 01:13:13,929
Yuga cycle that end up with the universe

1603
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:23,689
okay I think from what you're describing

1604
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:25,920
the sounds of very much like the the

1605
01:13:35,530 --> 01:13:33,250
I'm not familiar with that so I can say

1606
01:13:37,690 --> 01:13:35,540
but they're not it's it's gonna like

1607
01:13:39,250 --> 01:13:37,700
yeah could be that when the signing of

1608
01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:39,260
the saying let's get damn they try to

1609
01:13:43,870 --> 01:13:42,560
measure smaller and smaller aspects of

1610
01:13:45,070 --> 01:13:43,880
manner and they get down to the bottom

1611
01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:45,080
of the saying hey there's nothing really

1612
01:13:50,730 --> 01:13:47,600
here you know the reality isn't reality

1613
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:50,740
this is just you know a hologram

1614
01:13:57,190 --> 01:13:54,530
well it might very well be that one of

1615
01:13:58,540 --> 01:13:57,200
the universes is essentially dreaming

1616
01:14:01,180 --> 01:13:58,550
the other one or they might be each

1617
01:14:02,740 --> 01:14:01,190
dreaming the other that's kind of what

1618
01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:02,750
I'm what I'm getting at essentially is

1619
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:18,520
and that's one that's two

1620
01:14:26,549 --> 01:14:21,959
you

1621
01:14:32,669 --> 01:14:29,370
okay and we are back ladies and

1622
01:14:34,469 --> 01:14:32,679
gentlemen I do apologize you'll have to

1623
01:14:37,169 --> 01:14:34,479
forgive me on this one whenever my wife

1624
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:37,179
turns on Netflix it cuts my internet out

1625
01:14:44,129 --> 01:14:41,170
so that is how do the nature things when

1626
01:14:47,850 --> 01:14:44,139
you're dealing with the universe and the

1627
01:14:50,129 --> 01:14:47,860
secrets therein layered what before we

1628
01:14:53,790 --> 01:14:50,139
were cut off I know we were discussing

1629
01:14:54,989 --> 01:14:53,800
whether it was fair or not that's to be

1630
01:14:58,259 --> 01:14:54,999
able to say which one is real and which

1631
01:15:00,870 --> 01:14:58,269
one's not real because at the end of the

1632
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:00,880
day from our own perception were the

1633
01:15:05,279 --> 01:15:02,170
real ones from their perception they're

1634
01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:05,289
also the real ones he is and going back

1635
01:15:08,729 --> 01:15:06,729
to the idiom which I know that you said

1636
01:15:12,450 --> 01:15:08,739
you were not familiar with one of the

1637
01:15:14,969 --> 01:15:12,460
concepts of reality is the the sleeping

1638
01:15:17,370 --> 01:15:14,979
giant syndrome that that the universe

1639
01:15:20,669 --> 01:15:17,380
itself could be a simulation whether

1640
01:15:22,319 --> 01:15:20,679
it's from a much more advanced society

1641
01:15:24,779 --> 01:15:22,329
that's just you know putting this into a

1642
01:15:28,140 --> 01:15:24,789
computer to see what happens or you know

1643
01:15:30,930 --> 01:15:28,150
whether where the dreams of some higher

1644
01:15:33,330 --> 01:15:30,940
being as it were is is this kind of the

1645
01:15:35,819 --> 01:15:33,340
idea that the the Dogon have been taught

1646
01:15:37,169 --> 01:15:35,829
as far as the nature of reality no

1647
01:15:39,930 --> 01:15:37,179
though it the way the Dogon are

1648
01:15:43,459 --> 01:15:39,940
explaining it this is a dynamic that

1649
01:15:47,370 --> 01:15:43,469
begins of itself they're really only

1650
01:15:50,370 --> 01:15:47,380
three physical properties or physical

1651
01:15:53,310 --> 01:15:50,380
processes necessary to set this thing

1652
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:53,320
off the first one is just a conceptual

1653
01:16:00,569 --> 01:15:56,170
idea that the dynamic of a dipole the

1654
01:16:01,830 --> 01:16:00,579
idea of an oscillation two poles that

1655
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:01,840
come together and move apart come

1656
01:16:06,569 --> 01:16:04,570
together move apart with energy passing

1657
01:16:11,399 --> 01:16:06,579
between the two poles that's the first

1658
01:16:13,229 --> 01:16:11,409
one the second piece of it is the idea

1659
01:16:16,379 --> 01:16:13,239
that when you have two streams of energy

1660
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:16,389
come together of different quality that

1661
01:16:20,989 --> 01:16:18,489
they tend to create they tend to spin

1662
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:20,999
and create a whirlpool or a vortex and

1663
01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:24,249
the third piece of it is that when you

1664
01:16:30,660 --> 01:16:27,760
spin electro magnetic energy that you

1665
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:30,670
create mass and you slow time frame

1666
01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:36,130
and so those three factors from those

1667
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:38,080
three factors everything else we seek

1668
01:16:48,170 --> 01:16:45,150
it's simply the fact that those three

1669
01:16:51,020 --> 01:16:48,180
situations are true

1670
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:51,030
that everything we see can automatically

1671
01:16:56,660 --> 01:16:52,850
drive the way the Dogon describe it and

1672
01:17:00,350 --> 01:16:56,670
this is not the idea that someone set it

1673
01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:00,360
up and that we're in a simulation it's

1674
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:05,100
that the potential for life has built in

1675
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:07,570
from the very start and that the largest

1676
01:17:11,450 --> 01:17:16,160
but not treated as a deity

1677
01:17:27,669 --> 01:17:20,990
okay I'm still trying to wrap my head

1678
01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:32,200
okay so it is the where were to part to

1679
01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:33,679
like our universe in their universe are

1680
01:17:39,130 --> 01:17:36,800
two parts of a whole still and our two

1681
01:17:41,140 --> 01:17:39,140
universes are essentially one in the

1682
01:17:44,860 --> 01:17:41,150
same they're brother and sister and if

1683
01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:44,870
the larger hole as it were is not a

1684
01:17:52,270 --> 01:17:49,310
deity that's its is it another universe

1685
01:17:54,850 --> 01:17:52,280
on top of that is it a mmm more

1686
01:17:58,180 --> 01:17:54,860
complicated it's just another level and

1687
01:18:01,630 --> 01:17:58,190
that there are indications that those

1688
01:18:03,810 --> 01:18:01,640
levels are circular I mean it's the worm

1689
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:03,820
Ouroboros that it eats its own tail

1690
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:06,290
there's no saying that if you continued

1691
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:07,850
upward you wouldn't end up with where

1692
01:18:14,770 --> 01:18:12,110
you started out in the microcosm okay

1693
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:14,780
and I know that a few people maybe a lot

1694
01:18:18,820 --> 01:18:16,640
maybe lost because we'd cut out for a

1695
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:18,830
minute or two essentially before we got

1696
01:18:24,700 --> 01:18:21,770
cut out I know that's Laird and I had

1697
01:18:29,380 --> 01:18:24,710
been discussing the nature of the two

1698
01:18:31,090 --> 01:18:29,390
universes and with regards to time coq

1699
01:18:33,340 --> 01:18:31,100
au vin should we should we talk about

1700
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:33,350
the sleep cycle again is that we I think

1701
01:18:36,220 --> 01:18:34,640
that's I think that's actually where we

1702
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:36,230
got cut off because the sleep cycle has

1703
01:18:40,899 --> 01:18:38,090
something to does have a lot to do with

1704
01:18:43,630 --> 01:18:40,909
this from which okay well one of the

1705
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:43,640
metaphors for the universes is that the

1706
01:18:49,660 --> 01:18:45,650
non material universe is characterized

1707
01:18:52,450 --> 01:18:49,670
as a sleeping goddess and the processes

1708
01:18:55,369 --> 01:18:52,460
of material creation are represented as

1709
01:18:58,899 --> 01:18:55,379
an awakening

1710
01:19:03,490 --> 01:19:00,970
that plays out between the two universes

1711
01:19:05,740 --> 01:19:03,500
in terms of energy in terms of the

1712
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:05,750
stages of the yoga cycle and so forth is

1713
01:19:12,939 --> 01:19:10,610
the dynamic of a sleep cycle that it has

1714
01:19:16,629 --> 01:19:12,949
some elements that are akin to sleep

1715
01:19:18,250 --> 01:19:16,639
cycle in a person directly again and as

1716
01:19:20,620 --> 01:19:18,260
some elements are akin to a sleep cycle

1717
01:19:22,209 --> 01:19:20,630
than a dolphin a dolphin only one

1718
01:19:25,419 --> 01:19:22,219
hemisphere that the brain sleeps at a

1719
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:25,429
time even in the human you know that if

1720
01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:26,570
you've been awakened in the middle of

1721
01:19:29,589 --> 01:19:28,400
the night by an unusual sound that

1722
01:19:30,939 --> 01:19:29,599
there's a part of your brain that's

1723
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:30,949
still awake even when you're sleeping

1724
01:19:34,209 --> 01:19:32,449
it's paying attention to what's going on

1725
01:19:37,089 --> 01:19:34,219
and it's alerting you if something

1726
01:19:39,100 --> 01:19:37,099
unusual happens when a dolphin and the

1727
01:19:40,510 --> 01:19:39,110
entire hemisphere of the brain is awake

1728
01:19:43,089 --> 01:19:40,520
while the other half mystery of sleeps

1729
01:19:44,649 --> 01:19:43,099
that seems to be the essential dynamic

1730
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:44,659
that's going on between the two

1731
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:47,360
universes that one is behaving as if

1732
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:49,040
it's asleep while the other ones maybe

1733
01:19:53,649 --> 01:19:51,530
being as if it's awake even the last

1734
01:19:55,839 --> 01:19:53,659
stage of the unicycle this age where I

1735
01:19:59,859 --> 01:19:55,849
said the non-material universe is locked

1736
01:20:04,089 --> 01:19:59,869
in is a correlate to REM sleep where a

1737
01:20:06,660 --> 01:20:04,099
person is actively aware in their mind

1738
01:20:08,919 --> 01:20:06,670
but not able to move

1739
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:12,070
and how does this how does this affect

1740
01:20:16,030 --> 01:20:13,850
us well I should say we've already

1741
01:20:18,970 --> 01:20:16,040
discussed how this can affect us how

1742
01:20:22,570 --> 01:20:18,980
does this affect this sacred but non a

1743
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:22,580
deity being or construct or or I'm not

1744
01:20:27,610 --> 01:20:24,110
even sure how doable to describe it if

1745
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:27,620
this is if this is the case well for one

1746
01:20:32,500 --> 01:20:30,320
thing and in esoteric Buddhism one of

1747
01:20:35,020 --> 01:20:32,510
the final stages of us I think the final

1748
01:20:38,250 --> 01:20:35,030
stage of ascension is coming to a

1749
01:20:42,250 --> 01:20:38,260
visceral understanding that is all

1750
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:42,260
consciousness that what's going on in

1751
01:20:50,530 --> 01:20:46,480
your own consciousness is just a

1752
01:20:52,660 --> 01:20:50,540
subdivision of that that ultimate

1753
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:52,670
consciousness

1754
01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:57,010
that where XD exoteric traditions are

1755
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:00,800
based on dualism the esoteric really

1756
01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:03,530
ultimately is based on a lack of dualism

1757
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:09,040
it's a singularity it's not it's not

1758
01:21:13,510 --> 01:21:12,320
even a Trinity or duality it's it's

1759
01:21:16,150 --> 01:21:13,520
trying to be able to describe

1760
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:16,160
universality essentially as a great I

1761
01:21:18,700 --> 01:21:17,600
mean this is basically the same ships

1762
01:21:21,780 --> 01:21:18,710
that a brain goes through in

1763
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:21,790
consciousness that to be conscious a

1764
01:21:27,190 --> 01:21:25,250
person has got or any kind of dis entity

1765
01:21:28,930 --> 01:21:27,200
has got to be able to look at things

1766
01:21:31,450 --> 01:21:28,940
from two perspectives just the same way

1767
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:31,460
a 3d image has to be looked at from two

1768
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:33,770
perspectives that after be able to look

1769
01:21:37,510 --> 01:21:35,810
at an overview and you have to look at

1770
01:21:38,980 --> 01:21:37,520
be able to look at it in detail that's

1771
01:21:42,270 --> 01:21:38,990
the essential dynamic between the two

1772
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:42,280
universes one is unity the other is

1773
01:21:48,430 --> 01:21:46,490
multiplicity interesting okay now the

1774
01:21:50,830 --> 01:21:48,440
way this energy scrolls that Scrolls

1775
01:21:53,710 --> 01:21:50,840
through or we get to a concept of the

1776
01:21:55,570 --> 01:21:53,720
ether all of the many of the ancient

1777
01:21:59,290 --> 01:21:55,580
traditions had a concept of the ether

1778
01:22:00,910 --> 01:21:59,300
that Einstein discussed Einstein said

1779
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:00,920
that his theories of relativity don't

1780
01:22:07,390 --> 01:22:04,250
preclude an ether but they require it to

1781
01:22:11,650 --> 01:22:07,400
take a certain form essentially it's it

1782
01:22:14,140 --> 01:22:11,660
would have to not be a rigid structure I

1783
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:14,150
have to have some fluidity to it but

1784
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:15,650
there other aspects of it that do have

1785
01:22:24,250 --> 01:22:22,010
to be rigid my book ties to a theory of

1786
01:22:27,220 --> 01:22:24,260
physics called the ether physics model

1787
01:22:30,910 --> 01:22:27,230
that was developed by a student of Astro

1788
01:22:34,030 --> 01:22:30,920
physics a gentleman by the name of David

1789
01:22:35,980 --> 01:22:34,040
David Thompson the third he was

1790
01:22:38,380 --> 01:22:35,990
unsatisfied with the questions he was

1791
01:22:40,270 --> 01:22:38,390
getting from his professors about very

1792
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:40,280
fundamental things like nature of

1793
01:22:45,460 --> 01:22:43,760
mentions things like that and so he

1794
01:22:48,130 --> 01:22:45,470
decided he'd be better off to

1795
01:22:52,350 --> 01:22:48,140
reformulate things from the ground up he

1796
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:52,360
he bases his definitions on the smallest

1797
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:54,770
observable units not the largest as I am

1798
01:22:58,810 --> 01:22:57,410
saying cycles of you know concepts of

1799
01:23:02,350 --> 01:22:58,820
time an ancient world were based on the

1800
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:02,360
largest observable cycle Thompson bases

1801
01:23:08,290 --> 01:23:05,210
his on the smallest observable thing but

1802
01:23:10,660 --> 01:23:08,300
he reproduces he replicates all of those

1803
01:23:14,020 --> 01:23:10,670
same Dogen stages that aren't discussed

1804
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:14,030
by Hawking and Brian Greene that's part

1805
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:16,130
of the reason that I wrote the book was

1806
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:18,650
understanding that we have parallel as a

1807
01:23:22,690 --> 01:23:20,090
direct parallel

1808
01:23:25,900 --> 01:23:22,700
the concept rests on what's called an

1809
01:23:29,950 --> 01:23:25,910
ether unit and an ether unit is

1810
01:23:33,220 --> 01:23:29,960
essentially the dynamic that happens at

1811
01:23:36,460 --> 01:23:33,230
the interface between two mediums now an

1812
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:36,470
example of that is the interface between

1813
01:23:42,270 --> 01:23:39,290
water and the air what you see happen at

1814
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:42,280
the interface between water and air are

1815
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:46,370
sort of a vesica Pisces shaped ripple

1816
01:23:50,770 --> 01:23:48,650
the water glints off of if you look at

1817
01:23:52,870 --> 01:23:50,780
what sunlight shining on water you can

1818
01:23:55,540 --> 01:23:52,880
see these little sparkling little vesica

1819
01:23:57,730 --> 01:23:55,550
pisces shapes and they are ephemeral in

1820
01:23:59,920 --> 01:23:57,740
that they they shift they don't have

1821
01:24:01,390 --> 01:23:59,930
permanent permanence to them they're

1822
01:24:05,530 --> 01:24:01,400
akin to what are called virtual

1823
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:05,540
particles of matter but the fact that

1824
01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:07,970
virtual particles exist in that form

1825
01:24:12,220 --> 01:24:09,920
implies that there are two mediums not

1826
01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:12,230
one that we're sitting at the interface

1827
01:24:16,900 --> 01:24:14,960
between two now the purpose of that

1828
01:24:23,580 --> 01:24:16,910
ether you that according to Thompson is

1829
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:23,590
to shape electromagnetism basically to

1830
01:24:29,380 --> 01:24:26,710
configure it in ways that have ultimate

1831
01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:29,390
impact on what kinds of structures can

1832
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:32,480
be materially evoked from it so into

1833
01:24:37,660 --> 01:24:35,210
inside this little okay if you look at

1834
01:24:41,500 --> 01:24:37,670
the geometry that aligns the Buddhist

1835
01:24:44,650 --> 01:24:41,510
stupa the circles that are evoked have

1836
01:24:46,300 --> 01:24:44,660
an overlap that creates this shape of

1837
01:24:50,590 --> 01:24:46,310
the fish the best cup I see shape and

1838
01:24:52,150 --> 01:24:50,600
that overlap is a correlate to the

1839
01:24:54,460 --> 01:24:52,160
overlap that is said to happen at every

1840
01:24:57,130 --> 01:24:54,470
point in space and time between the two

1841
01:25:01,210 --> 01:24:57,140
universes and it's inside that inside

1842
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:01,220
that shape the laws of material physics

1843
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:04,730
don't apply instead the laws of the Nama

1844
01:25:08,440 --> 01:25:06,410
to our universe is life in other words

1845
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:08,450
the timeframe in there is infinitely

1846
01:25:15,130 --> 01:25:12,110
quick and so if you have two electrons

1847
01:25:17,740 --> 01:25:15,140
who rather than coming into interaction

1848
01:25:19,450 --> 01:25:17,750
with each other in a material frame are

1849
01:25:23,380 --> 01:25:19,460
induced to come into interaction with

1850
01:25:25,150 --> 01:25:23,390
each other inside one of those ether

1851
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:25,160
units

1852
01:25:30,660 --> 01:25:28,250
connection is happening within the

1853
01:25:33,850 --> 01:25:30,670
context of an infinitely fast time frame

1854
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:33,860
now if it takes me no time at all to

1855
01:25:37,900 --> 01:25:36,110
walk from here to the grocery store if

1856
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:37,910
it takes zero time for me to get there

1857
01:25:42,130 --> 01:25:39,890
then effectively there's no distance

1858
01:25:46,510 --> 01:25:42,140
between me in the grocery store without

1859
01:25:51,190 --> 01:25:46,520
a time frame there is no distance and so

1860
01:25:52,660 --> 01:25:51,200
in tangles entangled electrons where no

1861
01:25:54,610 --> 01:25:52,670
matter how far you seem to move them

1862
01:25:58,510 --> 01:25:54,620
apart from each other in this sense what

1863
01:26:00,580 --> 01:25:58,520
if you the quantum property of one of

1864
01:26:01,870 --> 01:26:00,590
the particles you flip the Kuan Yew you

1865
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:01,880
affect the property of the other

1866
01:26:06,580 --> 01:26:03,890
particle its entangled in steini ously

1867
01:26:09,370 --> 01:26:06,590
and faster than the speed of light as if

1868
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:09,380
they were the same thing that kind of an

1869
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:10,970
interaction happens inside of these

1870
01:26:19,330 --> 01:26:14,210
ether units in the context of this ultra

1871
01:26:23,580 --> 01:26:19,340
quick time frame but that's why the idea

1872
01:26:29,620 --> 01:26:23,590
of space and time are interrelated

1873
01:26:32,820 --> 01:26:29,630
because as time frame slows down slower

1874
01:26:34,950 --> 01:26:32,830
than that ultra quick time frame

1875
01:26:38,370 --> 01:26:34,960
the very existence of the times what

1876
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:38,380
creates space the effect of space the

1877
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:41,050
fact that it takes three minutes to walk

1878
01:26:43,380 --> 01:26:42,250
from here to the grocery store means

1879
01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:43,390
there's space between me in the grocery

1880
01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:45,310
store

1881
01:26:52,410 --> 01:26:48,880
and you can't separate the two they go

1882
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:52,420
hand-in-hand with each other now are

1883
01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:56,170
there ways to I'm gonna say do something

1884
01:27:01,890 --> 01:26:57,730
similar or even like for us to be able

1885
01:27:04,050 --> 01:27:01,900
to contact the the the other half of or

1886
01:27:06,180 --> 01:27:04,060
the non-material universe I should say I

1887
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:06,190
know that there are individuals I know

1888
01:27:11,460 --> 01:27:08,050
mark has brought up people like John see

1889
01:27:14,130 --> 01:27:11,470
Lily who developed the sensory

1890
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:14,140
deprivation tank and was part of the

1891
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:16,810
earth cook Winston's control office and

1892
01:27:21,330 --> 01:27:18,850
are you familiar with any of his works

1893
01:27:23,610 --> 01:27:21,340
with regards to trying to remove the

1894
01:27:26,850 --> 01:27:23,620
perception of time and and the

1895
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:26,860
perception of of you know even weight or

1896
01:27:31,170 --> 01:27:29,530
gravity - you don't really have to do

1897
01:27:35,340 --> 01:27:31,180
that I mean they're also there number of

1898
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:35,350
different ways of trying to enhance our

1899
01:27:41,940 --> 01:27:38,050
perception of the non-material mm-hmm

1900
01:27:47,010 --> 01:27:41,950
but in my experience all that's really

1901
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:47,020
required is to notice it's a fact that

1902
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:50,290
when the same odd reference turns up in

1903
01:27:54,030 --> 01:27:51,850
three different contexts over the course

1904
01:27:56,730 --> 01:27:54,040
of three days for you something that you

1905
01:27:58,560 --> 01:27:56,740
hadn't in in 20 years you hadn't heard

1906
01:28:01,010 --> 01:27:58,570
it heard of this thing and suddenly the

1907
01:28:03,030 --> 01:28:01,020
same word turns up at three different

1908
01:28:06,150 --> 01:28:03,040
disconnected contacts for you in the

1909
01:28:09,450 --> 01:28:06,160
same week having the sense to see that

1910
01:28:12,300 --> 01:28:09,460
as a thing and take it as an indication

1911
01:28:14,940 --> 01:28:12,310
that you should explore the what what

1912
01:28:16,650 --> 01:28:14,950
that might mean as soon as you give

1913
01:28:18,900 --> 01:28:16,660
credence to that you are paying

1914
01:28:20,610 --> 01:28:18,910
attention to the non-material side and

1915
01:28:22,590 --> 01:28:20,620
when you pay attention to it you draw it

1916
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:22,600
to yourself because the non-material

1917
01:28:31,890 --> 01:28:28,530
side is actively looking for connection

1918
01:28:34,830 --> 01:28:31,900
No if this is the case this would go

1919
01:28:36,690 --> 01:28:34,840
slightly against what we were told like

1920
01:28:39,180 --> 01:28:36,700
when we had chanson on the show a couple

1921
01:28:42,090 --> 01:28:39,190
of weeks ago and he'd regard it he had

1922
01:28:44,820 --> 01:28:42,100
mentioned that you know the idea of

1923
01:28:46,730 --> 01:28:44,830
connecting to what well the source what

1924
01:28:51,540 --> 01:28:46,740
what was called the source that that's

1925
01:28:52,860 --> 01:28:51,550
same state of you know Zen or fluidity

1926
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:52,870
where you can essentially pull

1927
01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:54,400
information out of out of the ether I'll

1928
01:28:59,400 --> 01:28:57,280
use that I'll use that metaphor and the

1929
01:29:01,620 --> 01:28:59,410
the best way to be able to do that is to

1930
01:29:06,030 --> 01:29:01,630
not draw attention to just let it come

1931
01:29:08,370 --> 01:29:06,040
but that somewhat goes against their

1932
01:29:12,180 --> 01:29:08,380
concept that you just told us so I'm

1933
01:29:14,070 --> 01:29:12,190
trying to I'm trying to think or if

1934
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:14,080
they're one in the same or if they're

1935
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:16,450
two completely different in and in the

1936
01:29:20,070 --> 01:29:18,250
view of the Kabbalists different people

1937
01:29:21,270 --> 01:29:20,080
have that happen different ways there

1938
01:29:25,100 --> 01:29:21,280
are different classes of what are called

1939
01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:25,110
mistakes now my experience might not be

1940
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:28,840
universally transferable I fell into a

1941
01:29:34,380 --> 01:29:31,210
class that the capitalists define as a

1942
01:29:37,580 --> 01:29:34,390
pure mystic quote-unquote a pure mystic

1943
01:29:39,810 --> 01:29:37,590
is a person who as they need it

1944
01:29:42,390 --> 01:29:39,820
cosmological information becomes

1945
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:42,400
available to them and there's nothing

1946
01:29:46,590 --> 01:29:44,530
special I have to do to get it I don't

1947
01:29:49,860 --> 01:29:46,600
have to go into a trance I don't have to

1948
01:29:52,830 --> 01:29:49,870
take a drug I don't have to go to a

1949
01:29:54,900 --> 01:29:52,840
sleep deprivation tank there's nothing I

1950
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:54,910
have to do to make it happen except pay

1951
01:30:00,210 --> 01:29:55,770
attention to it

1952
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:00,220
now that experience may not be universal

1953
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:00,970
as I say

1954
01:30:08,780 --> 01:30:03,330
but in my experiment be in my experience

1955
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:11,689
um

1956
01:30:20,569 --> 01:30:17,029
some people who take ayahuasca seem to

1957
01:30:23,659 --> 01:30:20,579
be connected to an amateur reality that

1958
01:30:27,679 --> 01:30:23,669
has some coherence to it other people

1959
01:30:30,589 --> 01:30:27,689
who take I want seem to draw out the

1960
01:30:33,949 --> 01:30:30,599
negativity negativism from their own

1961
01:30:36,169 --> 01:30:33,959
experiences their different ways that

1962
01:30:41,330 --> 01:30:36,179
there's affects different people and

1963
01:30:43,069 --> 01:30:41,340
that may be an inborn thing I'm not I

1964
01:30:49,489 --> 01:30:43,079
know there are people that I know that

1965
01:30:51,679 --> 01:30:49,499
are much more fundamentally attuned to

1966
01:30:53,209 --> 01:30:51,689
the non-material than I am and who

1967
01:30:56,929 --> 01:30:53,219
experience things very differently from

1968
01:30:58,399 --> 01:30:56,939
the way that I experience them I know a

1969
01:31:00,949 --> 01:30:58,409
range of people who experience

1970
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:00,959
connections to the non-material who in

1971
01:31:05,209 --> 01:31:03,090
very different ways from each other but

1972
01:31:07,879 --> 01:31:05,219
confirm each other's information I mean

1973
01:31:11,029 --> 01:31:07,889
that that they will each get a sense of

1974
01:31:12,979 --> 01:31:11,039
something that falls in the precisely

1975
01:31:14,779 --> 01:31:12,989
the same ballpark maybe with different

1976
01:31:18,649 --> 01:31:14,789
levels of detail or different details

1977
01:31:20,540 --> 01:31:18,659
emphasized so it's hard to say that

1978
01:31:24,739 --> 01:31:20,550
there is there there's any one way of

1979
01:31:27,409 --> 01:31:24,749
doing this but the the common

1980
01:31:31,100 --> 01:31:27,419
denominator denominator for my point of

1981
01:31:35,419 --> 01:31:31,110
view is simply paying attention to it to

1982
01:31:38,719 --> 01:31:35,429
begin with that not taking coincidences

1983
01:31:41,179 --> 01:31:38,729
as just being chance this is really part

1984
01:31:43,939 --> 01:31:41,189
of what I do with my work the cosmology

1985
01:31:45,620 --> 01:31:43,949
work is having to sift through the

1986
01:31:47,629 --> 01:31:45,630
things that look like the resemblances

1987
01:31:49,939 --> 01:31:47,639
and to try to distinguish them from the

1988
01:31:56,270 --> 01:31:49,949
ones that actually are that's really the

1989
01:31:58,939 --> 01:31:56,280
fundamental process it's it goes with

1990
01:32:00,739 --> 01:31:58,949
dream interpretation it goes with all of

1991
01:32:04,729 --> 01:32:00,749
the paranormal types of clairvoyance

1992
01:32:06,500 --> 01:32:04,739
contacts but the first step for all of

1993
01:32:11,239 --> 01:32:06,510
them is you got to pay attention to it

1994
01:32:12,469 --> 01:32:11,249
accredited it you've got to allow that

1995
01:32:16,060 --> 01:32:12,479
there's something going on that you

1996
01:32:23,540 --> 01:32:18,709
and if we're being taught these things

1997
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:23,550
to hopefully when we get again to that

1998
01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:25,130
end of the scroll as you had mentioned

1999
01:32:32,390 --> 01:32:29,280
how would we return the favor to them is

2000
01:32:34,669 --> 01:32:32,400
there a method that they're teaching us

2001
01:32:37,130 --> 01:32:34,679
or that they're trying to convey to us

2002
01:32:40,490 --> 01:32:37,140
to say hey you know if we can no longer

2003
01:32:43,070 --> 01:32:40,500
perceive your side and we need to know

2004
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:43,080
that this that that we're still here or

2005
01:32:49,250 --> 01:32:46,290
if generations pass or however you know

2006
01:32:52,459 --> 01:32:49,260
the change offer of birth and death

2007
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:52,469
works there there's a covenant here and

2008
01:32:59,600 --> 01:32:56,489
the government is an understanding that

2009
01:33:00,590 --> 01:32:59,610
what they have done for us this cycle we

2010
01:33:03,410 --> 01:33:00,600
are going to be in the position of

2011
01:33:05,209 --> 01:33:03,420
having to do for them the next cycle but

2012
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:05,219
it's a mutual interest it's not one

2013
01:33:09,110 --> 01:33:06,810
doing for the other it's actually as I

2014
01:33:11,209 --> 01:33:09,120
said more in the interests of the

2015
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:11,219
nominator aside to have the compatriot

2016
01:33:18,229 --> 01:33:13,890
that it is an aside to have the

2017
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:18,239
knowledge so you can see it as one doing

2018
01:33:21,830 --> 01:33:19,410
for the other one but it's really both

2019
01:33:26,060 --> 01:33:21,840
doing for each other it's the same way

2020
01:33:30,140 --> 01:33:26,070
that siblings should behave or are their

2021
01:33:32,750 --> 01:33:30,150
groups or people who fully understand

2022
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:32,760
this and are basically preparing and for

2023
01:33:42,410 --> 01:33:36,239
this eventualities and and how the heck

2024
01:33:43,910 --> 01:33:42,420
would we go about doing that the way the

2025
01:33:46,610 --> 01:33:43,920
scrolling energy works well I'll

2026
01:33:48,290 --> 01:33:46,620
actually become more aware of I mean if

2027
01:33:49,939 --> 01:33:48,300
all of this is a real thing

2028
01:33:51,860 --> 01:33:49,949
we will automatically become more

2029
01:33:55,669 --> 01:33:51,870
sensitive to things that are not but non

2030
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:55,679
material as time goes on part of the

2031
01:33:59,810 --> 01:33:58,050
reason that we seem to be having a

2032
01:34:03,439 --> 01:33:59,820
resurgence right now is because the game

2033
01:34:06,050 --> 01:34:03,449
has changed we moved past you know and

2034
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:06,060
all of the traditional outlooks we have

2035
01:34:11,780 --> 01:34:09,810
moved past the furthest point in the

2036
01:34:14,180 --> 01:34:11,790
cycle of being removed from the material

2037
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:14,190
or the non material that were on the

2038
01:34:20,630 --> 01:34:17,850
ascending side right now and we're you

2039
01:34:23,950 --> 01:34:20,640
know perhaps 2,000 years up the Ascend

2040
01:34:26,510 --> 01:34:23,960
twelve thousand year ascending cycle

2041
01:34:28,700 --> 01:34:26,520
there are metaphors given symbolic

2042
01:34:32,690 --> 01:34:28,710
metaphors given in various cultures

2043
01:34:34,250 --> 01:34:32,700
talk about when cross the the periods of

2044
01:34:36,410 --> 01:34:34,260
time the intervals of time where it

2045
01:34:39,729 --> 01:34:36,420
becomes process possible to cross over

2046
01:34:42,500 --> 01:34:39,739
from one to the other universe and

2047
01:34:44,990 --> 01:34:42,510
there's discussion in ancient Egypt of

2048
01:34:48,740 --> 01:34:45,000
the kinds of gateways that are used to

2049
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:48,750
perform the cross over the idea that

2050
01:34:56,630 --> 01:34:51,570
those gateways are actively guarded mmm

2051
01:35:01,310 --> 01:34:56,640
so that not just anybody can cross but

2052
01:35:05,290 --> 01:35:01,320
this opens the door to discussion with a

2053
01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:05,300
potentially scientific I of all sorts of

2054
01:35:12,979 --> 01:35:10,110
Fringe ideas I mean the idea of fairies

2055
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:12,989
that persisted in a time frame that was

2056
01:35:18,500 --> 01:35:16,530
slightly off frame from ours the idea

2057
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:18,510
that anybody who went to spend time with

2058
01:35:22,340 --> 01:35:20,130
the fairies when they came back they had

2059
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:22,350
suffered lost time or they there was a

2060
01:35:32,140 --> 01:35:26,610
differential time like for Rip Van

2061
01:35:35,300 --> 01:35:32,150
Winkle who came back and discovered that

2062
01:35:38,780 --> 01:35:35,310
everyone he knew had died and he was old

2063
01:35:42,410 --> 01:35:38,790
man there are lots of reports in like

2064
01:35:44,300 --> 01:35:42,420
the Bible and places like that of people

2065
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:44,310
who supposedly have had non-material

2066
01:35:48,740 --> 01:35:47,010
experiences who find a shift in

2067
01:35:50,150 --> 01:35:48,750
timeframe where they felt like they were

2068
01:35:52,100 --> 01:35:50,160
gone for an afternoon but they came back

2069
01:35:55,340 --> 01:35:52,110
and I've been several weeks I've been a

2070
01:35:57,260 --> 01:35:55,350
monster years or whatever that's a time

2071
01:35:59,450 --> 01:35:57,270
frame difference there's also the

2072
01:36:02,440 --> 01:35:59,460
suggestion that there's a minimum

2073
01:36:04,430 --> 01:36:02,450
increment of action that can be taken

2074
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:04,440
depending on what stage of the cycle

2075
01:36:12,340 --> 01:36:07,410
it's at and so that might explain why in

2076
01:36:14,870 --> 01:36:12,350
the early eras of ancient Egypt hmm

2077
01:36:16,940 --> 01:36:14,880
construction was done with 710 blocks

2078
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:16,950
and in later areas it was done with

2079
01:36:21,650 --> 01:36:20,130
smaller blocks it could be that a 700

2080
01:36:23,660 --> 01:36:21,660
ton block was the smallest block they

2081
01:36:26,990 --> 01:36:23,670
were capable of managing they couldn't

2082
01:36:29,630 --> 01:36:27,000
manipulate something smaller than that

2083
01:36:32,270 --> 01:36:29,640
the time frame may have been such that

2084
01:36:33,980 --> 01:36:32,280
they couldn't get a short enough short

2085
01:36:37,430 --> 01:36:33,990
enough grasp on something to get less

2086
01:36:42,740 --> 01:36:37,440
than a 710 piece of it that would have

2087
01:36:45,260 --> 01:36:42,750
meant very large people possibly if we

2088
01:36:49,070 --> 01:36:45,270
have shifting mass then we have shifting

2089
01:36:51,380 --> 01:36:49,080
gravity that means that a brontosaurus

2090
01:36:54,260 --> 01:36:51,390
who shouldn't be able to support his own

2091
01:36:56,090 --> 01:36:54,270
weight in the gravity we have now might

2092
01:37:00,020 --> 01:36:56,100
have been able to support his own own

2093
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:00,030
weight 10 you know thousands of years

2094
01:37:05,420 --> 01:37:02,730
ago when the earth might have been less

2095
01:37:08,390 --> 01:37:05,430
massive that the idea of an expanding

2096
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:08,400
earth with continents moving apart from

2097
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:09,570
each other because the earth is

2098
01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:12,570
expanding might be have have credibility

2099
01:37:18,650 --> 01:37:17,280
to it that the idea that people in

2100
01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:18,660
biblical times lived for nine hundred

2101
01:37:24,830 --> 01:37:20,490
years might be true if they were living

2102
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:25,820
and again it's very hard to be able to

2103
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:28,530
perceive this because it's if we're

2104
01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:29,489
talking different you know time

2105
01:37:34,729 --> 01:37:32,639
differentials you can say well how would

2106
01:37:36,140 --> 01:37:34,739
somebody my size be able to lift a 710

2107
01:37:38,839 --> 01:37:36,150
block while there's less gravity maybe

2108
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:38,849
the time was different you know even for

2109
01:37:42,169 --> 01:37:40,290
people like myself I'm a fairly

2110
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:42,179
intelligent guy I know there are some

2111
01:37:47,660 --> 01:37:46,170
concepts that are way past or if you

2112
01:37:50,959 --> 01:37:47,670
could see the smoke coming out of one

2113
01:37:52,669 --> 01:37:50,969
hand and it's the same thing as trying

2114
01:37:54,350 --> 01:37:52,679
to understand fourth you know four

2115
01:37:58,669 --> 01:37:54,360
dimensions and I was looking at the way

2116
01:38:00,050 --> 01:37:58,679
from looking at a cube but you know

2117
01:38:02,450 --> 01:38:00,060
putting it on a piece of paper where

2118
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:02,460
it's essentially just four four squares

2119
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:05,250
with four lines going between two

2120
01:38:09,290 --> 01:38:07,650
squares and but if you try and describe

2121
01:38:10,609 --> 01:38:09,300
that and actually say well no it you

2122
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:10,619
know you can hold it and you can pick it

2123
01:38:14,839 --> 01:38:12,690
up and you can look at it from all sides

2124
01:38:16,310 --> 01:38:14,849
and you know the person who's on that

2125
01:38:18,140 --> 01:38:16,320
piece of paper says well I don't

2126
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:18,150
understand that concept because all I

2127
01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:21,449
can see is just straight flat the

2128
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:25,199
doesn't do us a favor they have four

2129
01:38:32,419 --> 01:38:30,690
stages for metaphoric stages to the the

2130
01:38:34,250 --> 01:38:32,429
symbol symbolism of they apply and

2131
01:38:36,290 --> 01:38:34,260
there's dimensionality to those stages

2132
01:38:38,570 --> 01:38:36,300
if you pay attention to how they name

2133
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:38,580
them they're talking about the

2134
01:38:43,399 --> 01:38:40,650
perspective of a point the perspective

2135
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:43,409
of a line the perspective of a plane and

2136
01:38:48,220 --> 01:38:46,050
the perspective of three or four

2137
01:38:50,899 --> 01:38:48,230
dimensions

2138
01:38:53,419 --> 01:38:50,909
every time the Dogon created presented

2139
01:38:56,359 --> 01:38:53,429
drawing they assign one of those names

2140
01:38:57,979 --> 01:38:56,369
to it and sometimes give you two or

2141
01:38:59,419 --> 01:38:57,989
three related drawings that have

2142
01:39:01,870 --> 01:38:59,429
different names assigned to them

2143
01:39:04,180 --> 01:39:01,880
essentially

2144
01:39:06,250 --> 01:39:04,190
yeah there's a possibility that what

2145
01:39:07,900 --> 01:39:06,260
they're showing us is dimensional views

2146
01:39:10,270 --> 01:39:07,910
of the same thing here's how it looks

2147
01:39:13,140 --> 01:39:10,280
from the perspective of waves here's how

2148
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:13,150
it looks from the perspective of I

2149
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:15,050
here's how it looks from a perspective

2150
01:39:24,220 --> 01:39:20,810
of of a material universe and so what we

2151
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:24,230
see is a spiral for Barnard's loop an X

2152
01:39:34,770 --> 01:39:27,650
dimensional view down it's seen as seven

2153
01:39:39,870 --> 01:39:38,250
there's even dimensionality to the

2154
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:39,880
multiple meanings that of the Egyptian

2155
01:39:45,270 --> 01:39:44,050
word seems to be I've been in

2156
01:39:47,850 --> 01:39:45,280
communication with people like Whitley

2157
01:39:52,710 --> 01:39:47,860
Strieber about this that you could see

2158
01:39:56,030 --> 01:39:52,720
it in UFO abduction reports a woman

2159
01:39:58,950 --> 01:39:56,040
steps out onto her porch and she sees

2160
01:40:02,400 --> 01:39:58,960
three gray aliens who don't know she's

2161
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:02,410
there and then they notice her and they

2162
01:40:07,230 --> 01:40:04,330
turned to suddenly leave but as they

2163
01:40:09,950 --> 01:40:07,240
leave what she sees leaving is not three

2164
01:40:13,140 --> 01:40:09,960
gray aliens it's me dear

2165
01:40:15,750 --> 01:40:13,150
well the Egyptian word that means to

2166
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:15,760
depart him haste is a homonym is

2167
01:40:22,140 --> 01:40:17,410
pronounced the same way as the Egyptian

2168
01:40:26,010 --> 01:40:22,150
word that means dear now that scenario

2169
01:40:30,210 --> 01:40:26,020
which looks like it might involve a kind

2170
01:40:32,970 --> 01:40:30,220
of a translated telepathy or what the

2171
01:40:35,850 --> 01:40:32,980
the urgent need to leave quickly which

2172
01:40:37,850 --> 01:40:35,860
is being perceived by the supposed grey

2173
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:37,860
aliens

2174
01:40:43,580 --> 01:40:41,130
is being transmitted and felt by the

2175
01:40:45,950 --> 01:40:43,590
person who's observing it but in a

2176
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:45,960
translated way and so it looks like

2177
01:40:51,260 --> 01:40:48,690
there's these multiple meanings of

2178
01:40:53,570 --> 01:40:51,270
Egyptian term again and again and again

2179
01:40:58,359 --> 01:40:53,580
in terms of these odd situations that

2180
01:41:01,640 --> 01:40:58,369
happen with UFO a abductee and and

2181
01:41:03,169 --> 01:41:01,650
encounter observers that many of the

2182
01:41:07,100 --> 01:41:03,179
cases were documented by people like

2183
01:41:08,810 --> 01:41:07,110
John Mack and Budd Hopkins and the same

2184
01:41:14,390 --> 01:41:08,820
things happen again and again you know

2185
01:41:16,669 --> 01:41:14,400
the the the UFO is hovering and it seems

2186
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:16,679
to be blue it departs and it seems to be

2187
01:41:20,990 --> 01:41:18,690
red and approaches that it seems to be

2188
01:41:25,669 --> 01:41:21,000
white these are multiple terms of

2189
01:41:28,669 --> 01:41:25,679
Egyptian words there are there are many

2190
01:41:31,340 --> 01:41:28,679
many cases like that so it looks to me

2191
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:31,350
as if the UFO phenomenon is fundamental

2192
01:41:37,580 --> 01:41:34,250
fundamentally dimensional one or an

2193
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:37,590
universal one a trans Universal one and

2194
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:39,449
this is something that I've always

2195
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:41,489
looked at is even when it comes to

2196
01:41:45,620 --> 01:41:44,130
abduction cases and I know that so

2197
01:41:47,780 --> 01:41:45,630
everyone in the chat room right now is

2198
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:47,790
absolutely going ecstatic because he's

2199
01:41:50,270 --> 01:41:49,050
there they're like oh my goodness I

2200
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:50,280
can't believe you got layer to talk

2201
01:41:57,439 --> 01:41:52,080
about great aliens so we're gonna open

2202
01:42:03,890 --> 01:41:57,449
up that subject here physicality I would

2203
01:42:06,410 --> 01:42:03,900
have come to my my job is not OK my job

2204
01:42:10,430 --> 01:42:06,420
is to take a situation or a reference

2205
01:42:13,609 --> 01:42:10,440
that might or might not be true and test

2206
01:42:15,410 --> 01:42:13,619
it and over a very long period of time

2207
01:42:16,939 --> 01:42:15,420
and to try to relate references that

2208
01:42:19,129 --> 01:42:16,949
might or might not be true to each other

2209
01:42:21,379 --> 01:42:19,139
and so as I discover that one piece of

2210
01:42:23,810 --> 01:42:21,389
it looks like it could have truth to it

2211
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:23,820
it has bearing on the next piece that I

2212
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:26,250
didn't think did suddenly I realize it

2213
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:27,690
might you've got to allow the

2214
01:42:31,879 --> 01:42:29,610
possibility that's the way the way it

2215
01:42:35,030 --> 01:42:31,889
works the interpretation begins with

2216
01:42:37,580 --> 01:42:35,040
what we're being told by the culture is

2217
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:37,590
not with me it's I don't I'm not the one

2218
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:40,170
who sees that the Dogon symbols look

2219
01:42:43,850 --> 01:42:42,000
like the structure of matter the Dogon

2220
01:42:45,890 --> 01:42:43,860
priests are saying look we're describing

2221
01:42:47,839 --> 01:42:45,900
the structure of matter my job in it is

2222
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:47,849
just to test whether what they're saying

2223
01:42:51,650 --> 01:42:49,770
might be right

2224
01:42:55,010 --> 01:42:51,660
and same way when it comes to gray

2225
01:42:57,290 --> 01:42:55,020
aliens I you know gray aliens have

2226
01:42:58,880 --> 01:42:57,300
always fallen into the cap or for me of

2227
01:43:00,710 --> 01:42:58,890
might be true might not be true I don't

2228
01:43:06,010 --> 01:43:00,720
have a basis to judge well as time goes

2229
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:06,820
kind of the thing that I've always

2230
01:43:12,070 --> 01:43:09,290
looked at even even with regards to to

2231
01:43:14,110 --> 01:43:12,080
ancient aliens the last before the last

2232
01:43:17,050 --> 01:43:14,120
time you and I had talked on the show I

2233
01:43:19,300 --> 01:43:17,060
was you know at that point where okay

2234
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:19,310
I've seen too much of the the

2235
01:43:22,870 --> 01:43:21,410
showmanship with regards to the the

2236
01:43:24,990 --> 01:43:22,880
concept and I was completely off it

2237
01:43:27,370 --> 01:43:25,000
saying it's it's just smoke and mirrors

2238
01:43:28,540 --> 01:43:27,380
whereas after talking to him like okay

2239
01:43:30,610 --> 01:43:28,550
well maybe there's actually something to

2240
01:43:34,090 --> 01:43:30,620
it and then I just had a discussion with

2241
01:43:35,530 --> 01:43:34,100
with Robert Bauval and he touched on I

2242
01:43:37,420 --> 01:43:35,540
know I've probably brought it up with

2243
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:37,430
you a couple of times with regards to

2244
01:43:42,940 --> 01:43:40,850
things that he had said and with

2245
01:43:46,030 --> 01:43:42,950
relation to certain structures that in

2246
01:43:49,300 --> 01:43:46,040
Egypt that maybe let's say used even as

2247
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:49,310
a blueprint to try and you know

2248
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:51,530
transport ones one's own soul or one's

2249
01:43:59,830 --> 01:43:55,370
energy or change one state so that they

2250
01:44:01,420 --> 01:43:59,840
can be transported somewhere and if

2251
01:44:03,070 --> 01:44:01,430
we're talking about aliens one of the

2252
01:44:07,810 --> 01:44:03,080
things that has always stuck with me is

2253
01:44:10,270 --> 01:44:07,820
that there are instances of contact

2254
01:44:12,070 --> 01:44:10,280
where as you'd mentioned that if they're

2255
01:44:14,110 --> 01:44:12,080
running away it looks like deer that

2256
01:44:16,470 --> 01:44:14,120
could be because the information that's

2257
01:44:19,420 --> 01:44:16,480
being sent to us is one that we cannot

2258
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:19,430
understand or see based on the fact that

2259
01:44:23,860 --> 01:44:21,050
they are maybe shifting into a different

2260
01:44:25,540 --> 01:44:23,870
dimension or into some type of reality

2261
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:25,550
that is still halfway here or halfway

2262
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:27,530
there and it's the only thing that they

2263
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:29,690
maybe could do at that point to say okay

2264
01:44:33,190 --> 01:44:31,760
well you know this is this is what your

2265
01:44:35,500 --> 01:44:33,200
brain can understand and perceive at the

2266
01:44:37,660 --> 01:44:35,510
moment because if you had seen it

2267
01:44:39,130 --> 01:44:37,670
full-on you know it could have

2268
01:44:41,410 --> 01:44:39,140
completely wrecked your brain your

2269
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:41,420
understanding of reality it may also

2270
01:44:47,770 --> 01:44:45,890
just be able to describe why there are

2271
01:44:50,410 --> 01:44:47,780
certain instances of UFOs that seem to

2272
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:50,420
be shifting in and out of dimension or

2273
01:44:56,110 --> 01:44:53,330
changing shape all of a sudden it's like

2274
01:44:58,180 --> 01:44:56,120
if you are on a two dimensional plane

2275
01:45:00,190 --> 01:44:58,190
you may not be able to perceive a third

2276
01:45:03,010 --> 01:45:00,200
dimension so if you see your finger

2277
01:45:06,550 --> 01:45:03,020
that's on you know in your plane all you

2278
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:06,560
see is that one point if the only way

2279
01:45:11,950 --> 01:45:08,170
those motions make sense is

2280
01:45:17,979 --> 01:45:14,830
and yeah this this goes on to the idea

2281
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:17,989
of how to be able to perceive these you

2282
01:45:26,140 --> 01:45:20,930
know these beings as we were or as it

2283
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:26,150
were now if they came here and if it is

2284
01:45:31,780 --> 01:45:27,530
a part in this you're saying that it is

2285
01:45:34,060 --> 01:45:31,790
possible to be to go there Howard again

2286
01:45:36,100 --> 01:45:34,070
how how would that again how would that

2287
01:45:38,410 --> 01:45:36,110
even work is it even possible is it does

2288
01:45:40,510 --> 01:45:38,420
it involve leaving our plane of

2289
01:45:43,930 --> 01:45:40,520
existence and leaving our bodies here is

2290
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:43,940
it something that can then oh yeah that

2291
01:45:48,930 --> 01:45:46,250
requires a transfer of our body somehow

2292
01:45:52,140 --> 01:45:48,940
into some type of energy or non material

2293
01:45:57,070 --> 01:45:52,150
well here we get into the realm of

2294
01:46:00,300 --> 01:45:57,080
Pandora's box uh-huh that we have some

2295
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:00,310
pointers here there's a very

2296
01:46:07,020 --> 01:46:04,130
controversial but famous story of the

2297
01:46:10,540 --> 01:46:07,030
Philadelphia Experiment where ostensibly

2298
01:46:15,310 --> 01:46:10,550
top scientists were trying to make a

2299
01:46:17,229 --> 01:46:15,320
naval ship invisible and some terrible

2300
01:46:18,940 --> 01:46:17,239
effects occurred I mean they were

2301
01:46:22,420 --> 01:46:18,950
partially successful actually largely

2302
01:46:26,459 --> 01:46:22,430
successful but as a part of that success

2303
01:46:29,350 --> 01:46:26,469
there were some horrific side effects I

2304
01:46:32,050 --> 01:46:29,360
think that the question of is it

2305
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:32,060
possible to to interface with those

2306
01:46:39,250 --> 01:46:36,170
dimensions is what myths like Pandora's

2307
01:46:41,470 --> 01:46:39,260
Box are talking about that this is a

2308
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:41,480
door that this is this is a lid or a

2309
01:46:49,900 --> 01:46:44,930
door that can be opened but a door that

2310
01:46:51,580 --> 01:46:49,910
you might not want to open true but

2311
01:46:53,500 --> 01:46:51,590
again that's also the understanding of

2312
01:46:56,100 --> 01:46:53,510
sometimes it's just nice to know not

2313
01:46:59,320 --> 01:46:56,110
because you want to you know try it out

2314
01:47:03,240 --> 01:46:59,330
but it's kind of one of those indication

2315
01:47:07,450 --> 01:47:03,250
that I have is that in certain eras of

2316
01:47:10,380 --> 01:47:07,460
in case of this energy that crossover

2317
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:10,390
between the the you two universes is a

2318
01:47:17,350 --> 01:47:14,690
realistic thing and that certain

2319
01:47:18,580 --> 01:47:17,360
structures facilitate that certain

2320
01:47:23,380 --> 01:47:18,590
structures on the material side

2321
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:23,390
facilitate that and that those

2322
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:27,090
structures are very very well guarded

2323
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:29,850
guarded from our side or from their side

2324
01:47:36,060 --> 01:47:32,530
guarded from the other side regarded

2325
01:47:37,410 --> 01:47:36,070
from the non-material side ah one

2326
01:47:42,020 --> 01:47:37,420
question that's coming through is from

2327
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:42,030
Rezanov who's asking if it is possible

2328
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:44,890
that's you know anything that is may be

2329
01:47:49,440 --> 01:47:46,930
perceived as a gray alien or you know

2330
01:47:52,380 --> 01:47:49,450
any type of construct that is being

2331
01:47:53,790 --> 01:47:52,390
perceived on this realm is it could it

2332
01:47:56,430 --> 01:47:53,800
be an artificial construct or a

2333
01:47:58,050 --> 01:47:56,440
temporary construct like like an

2334
01:48:00,990 --> 01:47:58,060
artificial intelligence or an Android

2335
01:48:04,230 --> 01:48:01,000
for instance is is this something that

2336
01:48:07,650 --> 01:48:04,240
they've been known to do or is I'm going

2337
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:07,660
where is this going way off into more

2338
01:48:11,490 --> 01:48:09,610
than probably that that's all falls in

2339
01:48:13,110 --> 01:48:11,500
the the area of speculation those are

2340
01:48:16,220 --> 01:48:13,120
area are things I don't really have

2341
01:48:19,070 --> 01:48:16,230
direct information about I do know that

2342
01:48:24,510 --> 01:48:19,080
the Dogon knew more teachers and

2343
01:48:26,730 --> 01:48:24,520
presented as short-statured sorcerers

2344
01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:26,740
and there are traditions of

2345
01:48:31,620 --> 01:48:29,280
short-statured

2346
01:48:34,440 --> 01:48:31,630
magically capable people all over the

2347
01:48:36,900 --> 01:48:34,450
world that are mostly dismissed and

2348
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:36,910
looked past and they have an if anytime

2349
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:40,320
evidence is presented about them it's

2350
01:48:46,020 --> 01:48:42,730
shoved away in the door of some place or

2351
01:48:49,260 --> 01:48:46,030
community lost but it turns up again and

2352
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:49,270
again and again and again the Egyptian

2353
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:53,290
word that's nimah now in Egyptian words

2354
01:48:56,550 --> 01:48:55,090
we don't know what the phonetic value of

2355
01:48:58,620 --> 01:48:56,560
the vowel sounds were because they

2356
01:49:01,260 --> 01:48:58,630
weren't written this is also symbolic

2357
01:49:02,820 --> 01:49:01,270
having a word where you see half the

2358
01:49:05,270 --> 01:49:02,830
letters and you don't see the other half

2359
01:49:07,460 --> 01:49:05,280
as a hint

2360
01:49:09,980 --> 01:49:07,470
the word NEMA which could just as easily

2361
01:49:13,610 --> 01:49:09,990
have been pronounced pneumo means pygmy

2362
01:49:17,750 --> 01:49:13,620
the first reports of from this in

2363
01:49:18,890 --> 01:49:17,760
Scandinavia of Orkney Island said there

2364
01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:18,900
were two groups living side by side

2365
01:49:25,370 --> 01:49:22,110
their group of pygmies who were of very

2366
01:49:28,850 --> 01:49:25,380
strange habits and a group of clerics

2367
01:49:30,710 --> 01:49:28,860
who were average-sized who always wore

2368
01:49:32,620 --> 01:49:30,720
white like the Dogon do and were so

2369
01:49:35,570 --> 01:49:32,630
different from the Scandinavian says to

2370
01:49:38,270 --> 01:49:35,580
constitute a different race rather than

2371
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:38,280
to profess your profession I think what

2372
01:49:44,060 --> 01:49:41,730
the Scandinavians stumbled on was the

2373
01:49:46,250 --> 01:49:44,070
Dogon instructional site and that the

2374
01:49:47,540 --> 01:49:46,260
pygmies I mean the word the word for

2375
01:49:48,950 --> 01:49:47,550
pygmy in the Egyptian hieroglyphic

2376
01:49:51,650 --> 01:49:48,960
language includes a little picture what

2377
01:49:53,780 --> 01:49:51,660
the pygmy looked like

2378
01:50:02,510 --> 01:49:53,790
where they're basically saying she

2379
01:50:04,340 --> 01:50:02,520
looked at people who had skills and in

2380
01:50:08,270 --> 01:50:04,350
all areas we have people like that and

2381
01:50:10,790 --> 01:50:08,280
those skills seem to get less powerful

2382
01:50:11,930 --> 01:50:10,800
as as time goes on as we would expect

2383
01:50:16,310 --> 01:50:11,940
them to get less powerful if they were

2384
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:16,320
caused in the first place by connection

2385
01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:17,730
to a non-material side that was

2386
01:50:21,830 --> 01:50:20,400
diminishing as a recall I think I think

2387
01:50:25,820 --> 01:50:21,840
we touched on this the last one that

2388
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:25,830
these short statured individuals

2389
01:50:31,310 --> 01:50:27,530
actually taught the Picts how to make

2390
01:50:34,370 --> 01:50:31,320
non-alcoholic Mead right well actually

2391
01:50:35,750 --> 01:50:34,380
the pics look to have been as there's

2392
01:50:38,900 --> 01:50:35,760
debate as to whether the pics were a

2393
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:38,910
short statute or not in every case in

2394
01:50:43,850 --> 01:50:41,330
every culture that I found where there

2395
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:43,860
is evidence to suggest there were short

2396
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:45,930
statured people there's also it's also a

2397
01:50:53,810 --> 01:50:49,770
hugely controversial issue even where

2398
01:50:55,460 --> 01:50:53,820
the Dogon live in Mali there was a group

2399
01:50:57,170 --> 01:50:55,470
that lived there that's interpreted to

2400
01:50:59,840 --> 01:50:57,180
have lived there before the Dogon but

2401
01:51:03,080 --> 01:50:59,850
that that's up for question two but who

2402
01:51:06,460 --> 01:51:03,090
were African pygmies now I can't imagine

2403
01:51:11,440 --> 01:51:06,470
the Dogon accidentally went to a locale

2404
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:11,450
where pygmies lived or had lived

2405
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:13,040
it seems far more likely to me that the

2406
01:51:17,590 --> 01:51:14,570
Duggar went to a locale because they

2407
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:17,600
knew the pygmies were there and it's

2408
01:51:21,580 --> 01:51:19,730
also possibility that as he'd mentioned

2409
01:51:26,830 --> 01:51:21,590
that they had to go to this from a

2410
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:26,840
location because of how that they

2411
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:28,370
couldn't be around individuals for an

2412
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:30,170
extended period of time

2413
01:51:35,950 --> 01:51:32,570
well the the short statute people seem

2414
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:35,960
to have had a need to be near water in a

2415
01:51:39,220 --> 01:51:37,370
certain relationship to water and a

2416
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:39,230
certain relationship to electromagnetism

2417
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:41,570
and so where that places them at any

2418
01:51:47,620 --> 01:51:43,730
given point in time is somewhere

2419
01:51:51,070 --> 01:51:47,630
relatively close to the poles typically

2420
01:51:56,230 --> 01:51:54,400
the suggestion is because of those

2421
01:51:58,930 --> 01:51:56,240
requirements the suggestion to me is

2422
01:52:01,120 --> 01:51:58,940
that go back to Taipei in the era of

2423
01:52:03,350 --> 01:52:01,130
10,000 BC people's more surrounded with

2424
01:52:05,450 --> 01:52:03,360
water than we think

2425
01:52:09,770 --> 01:52:05,460
which would make which would make sense

2426
01:52:12,230 --> 01:52:09,780
if that were the case during this time

2427
01:52:13,190 --> 01:52:12,240
period again I'm trying to understand

2428
01:52:16,910 --> 01:52:13,200
the relationship between

2429
01:52:19,340 --> 01:52:16,920
electromagnetism and also just whether

2430
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:19,350
this is related to let's say the

2431
01:52:25,250 --> 01:52:23,090
electric universe theory and that

2432
01:52:26,810 --> 01:52:25,260
electromagnetism is more or less the

2433
01:52:29,450 --> 01:52:26,820
prevailing force within within the

2434
01:52:32,750 --> 01:52:29,460
universe itself which you're essentially

2435
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:32,760
saying is a possibility from yeah I mean

2436
01:52:36,460 --> 01:52:34,290
the Ender lying dynamic it's all about

2437
01:52:41,030 --> 01:52:36,470
electromagnetism everything begins as

2438
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:41,040
looks like that so it's oh oh okay and

2439
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:41,970
that's something that I don't

2440
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:44,850
necessarily think believe is talked

2441
01:52:49,780 --> 01:52:47,010
about very much with regards to light

2442
01:52:53,300 --> 01:52:49,790
and you know they're thinking more

2443
01:52:54,650 --> 01:52:53,310
people usually think lightning or to be

2444
01:52:57,790 --> 01:52:54,660
able to describe electricity not

2445
01:53:02,120 --> 01:52:57,800
actually just straight rays of light so

2446
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:02,130
this could even go go to see that

2447
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:04,530
communication when people say well you

2448
01:53:07,820 --> 01:53:06,090
know I saw this very bright flash of

2449
01:53:12,290 --> 01:53:07,830
light and something spoke to me that

2450
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:12,300
that could have been something at some

2451
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:13,650
point trying to get them to perceive

2452
01:53:21,230 --> 01:53:17,730
that's you know a message or a presence

2453
01:53:23,450 --> 01:53:21,240
within their current locale or their own

2454
01:53:25,490 --> 01:53:23,460
their current perception of something

2455
01:53:27,620 --> 01:53:25,500
from the other side right I mean that

2456
01:53:31,340 --> 01:53:27,630
the Egyptians have a class of being

2457
01:53:36,460 --> 01:53:31,350
that's described as beings of light I've

2458
01:53:39,860 --> 01:53:36,470
seen films footage people I know in

2459
01:53:46,150 --> 01:53:39,870
caves being approached by balls of light

2460
01:53:51,810 --> 01:53:50,200
so if we accept that a non-material or a

2461
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:51,820
less material for universe is

2462
01:53:56,500 --> 01:53:54,050
potentially a scientific thing there's

2463
01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:56,510
also a reason to allow the possibility

2464
01:54:01,990 --> 01:54:00,560
of something like that I mean the if we

2465
01:54:05,740 --> 01:54:02,000
simply allow that there's a second

2466
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:05,750
universe the door opens to scientific

2467
01:54:09,820 --> 01:54:07,730
exponentially scientific explanations

2468
01:54:12,610 --> 01:54:09,830
for all of these things that are we

2469
01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:12,620
consider different right now well it's

2470
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:15,040
like the concept of orange glowing orbs

2471
01:54:20,110 --> 01:54:17,330
some people attributed to earthquake

2472
01:54:21,850 --> 01:54:20,120
lights but I you know I've seen I

2473
01:54:24,100 --> 01:54:21,860
mentioned on the show a billion times at

2474
01:54:25,390 --> 01:54:24,110
this point I've seen one and I've said

2475
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:25,400
okay you know what I was looking at it

2476
01:54:30,100 --> 01:54:27,050
I'm like that that is something that is

2477
01:54:32,770 --> 01:54:30,110
moving intelligently and with purpose it

2478
01:54:34,180 --> 01:54:32,780
seemed you know fireflies do the exact

2479
01:54:38,590 --> 01:54:34,190
same thing but they just kind of blink

2480
01:54:40,540 --> 01:54:38,600
in and out in it it would be saying I

2481
01:54:44,020 --> 01:54:40,550
allow for the possibility of that I

2482
01:54:45,910 --> 01:54:44,030
don't have a way of demonstrating the

2483
01:54:48,250 --> 01:54:45,920
truth or the falsehood of it I mean this

2484
01:54:50,470 --> 01:54:48,260
this is the nature of my work is that

2485
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:50,480
far more of the stuff that I encounter

2486
01:54:56,110 --> 01:54:53,210
falls in the category of I can't prove

2487
01:54:57,760 --> 01:54:56,120
or disprove this and then eventually the

2488
01:54:59,650 --> 01:54:57,770
right piece comes along falls into place

2489
01:55:01,030 --> 01:54:59,660
and a whole books worth of that material

2490
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:01,040
falls out that's what happened with this

2491
01:55:06,850 --> 01:55:05,570
book seeking the primordial is that all

2492
01:55:08,770 --> 01:55:06,860
of these things I couldn't have an

2493
01:55:11,350 --> 01:55:08,780
opinion on before suddenly made sense

2494
01:55:14,250 --> 01:55:11,360
now how did it start making sense what

2495
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:14,260
was the the trigger the trigger was

2496
01:55:20,890 --> 01:55:18,530
recent I had spent the day with a woman

2497
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:20,900
a very intuitive woman we we knew who

2498
01:55:26,350 --> 01:55:24,170
was her last day she she passed away two

2499
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:26,360
hours after we left her house about the

2500
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:27,650
time we were getting back to our house

2501
01:55:33,220 --> 01:55:30,290
she lived lives down and Binghamton New

2502
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:33,230
York and we live in Albany about the

2503
01:55:39,550 --> 01:55:37,250
time we got back I had the sense of this

2504
01:55:41,230 --> 01:55:39,560
question which is it precisely the kind

2505
01:55:45,340 --> 01:55:41,240
of question this woman might have asked

2506
01:55:47,290 --> 01:55:45,350
which was the question of would the

2507
01:55:49,780 --> 01:55:47,300
geometry of sacred geometry be the

2508
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:49,790
geometry of something and that question

2509
01:55:55,870 --> 01:55:51,760
is what opened the door doll this

2510
01:55:58,090 --> 01:55:55,880
because finding the easy answers that

2511
01:55:59,410 --> 01:55:58,100
actually the geometry does tie to have

2512
01:56:04,840 --> 01:55:59,420
spin particles

2513
01:56:09,319 --> 01:56:04,850
opened a whole new chapter of ways of

2514
01:56:15,830 --> 01:56:12,700
if sacred geometry is supposed to be the

2515
01:56:17,419 --> 01:56:15,840
geometry of something and there's this

2516
01:56:19,209 --> 01:56:17,429
the this is what we refer to it

2517
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:19,219
beforehand as the immaterial universe

2518
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:21,210
it's the geometry

2519
01:56:27,439 --> 01:56:24,050
I mean overtly it's expressing

2520
01:56:29,030 --> 01:56:27,449
interesting things I made a post on

2521
01:56:33,410 --> 01:56:29,040
Facebook today where I'm talking about

2522
01:56:37,370 --> 01:56:33,420
that it seems to encode the the

2523
01:56:39,319 --> 01:56:37,380
relationship of time as a function of

2524
01:56:41,390 --> 01:56:39,329
the nominator aside with time as a

2525
01:56:45,260 --> 01:56:41,400
function of the material side and that's

2526
01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:45,270
a sin I also posted a quote from an

2527
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:47,130
authority on Buddhism busine says

2528
01:56:53,950 --> 01:56:49,050
essentially the same thing that the

2529
01:56:57,290 --> 01:56:53,960
geometry geometric geometric sizes time

2530
01:56:58,549 --> 01:56:57,300
so instead of I'm trying to see if I

2531
01:57:03,040 --> 01:56:58,559
actually understand this concept so I'm

2532
01:57:06,130 --> 01:57:05,050
instead of saying like well what time is

2533
01:57:07,750 --> 01:57:06,140
that you know with oh it's five o'clock

2534
01:57:11,110 --> 01:57:07,760
it's like oh it's three cubes past

2535
01:57:14,590 --> 01:57:11,120
square kind of kind of like that idea

2536
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:14,600
that time could be their volume for

2537
01:57:31,970 --> 01:57:28,010
that time in this generic form it is

2538
01:57:35,740 --> 01:57:31,980
represented as an oscillation a forward

2539
01:57:38,140 --> 01:57:35,750
and a backward motion just like a dipole

2540
01:57:40,900 --> 01:57:38,150
but that the dynamics of our

2541
01:57:44,110 --> 01:57:40,910
relationship mitrice filters out the

2542
01:57:46,420 --> 01:57:44,120
backward half of that I compare it to

2543
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:46,430
watching a swimmer in a pool who's doing

2544
01:57:50,590 --> 01:57:49,010
the crawl stroke and from the bleachers

2545
01:57:52,060 --> 01:57:50,600
you can see the motion of their arm

2546
01:57:55,300 --> 01:57:52,070
above the water but you can't see it

2547
01:57:57,220 --> 01:57:55,310
below the water and that's essentially

2548
01:57:59,320 --> 01:57:57,230
what's happening for us with time that

2549
01:58:01,600 --> 01:57:59,330
we see the forward motion of time only

2550
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:01,610
the for abortion because the backward

2551
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:05,570
motion is filtered out for us through

2552
01:58:10,510 --> 01:58:08,210
that blind spot or like the deep breath

2553
01:58:11,980 --> 01:58:10,520
before before you exhale you can feel

2554
01:58:13,300 --> 01:58:11,990
the breath on the way out but you may

2555
01:58:16,630 --> 01:58:13,310
not necessarily be able to perceive the

2556
01:58:17,860 --> 01:58:16,640
air coming in but you can you the only

2557
01:58:18,850 --> 01:58:17,870
way you'd be able to perceive it would

2558
01:58:21,490 --> 01:58:18,860
be that the fact that it's actually

2559
01:58:23,110 --> 01:58:21,500
let's say filling your lungs beyond that

2560
01:58:25,510 --> 01:58:23,120
you can't see it you can't perceive it

2561
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:25,520
you may not be able to taste it but it's

2562
01:58:31,420 --> 01:58:29,930
there yeah I hate to be a spoilsport

2563
01:58:35,140 --> 01:58:31,430
here but we're reaching a point where I

2564
01:58:37,870 --> 01:58:35,150
should probably you know oh god I do

2565
01:58:40,300 --> 01:58:37,880
apologize that is that is the case now

2566
01:58:45,610 --> 01:58:40,310
it is available on Amazon it's available

2567
01:58:48,670 --> 01:58:45,620
in eBook as well as in a paperback right

2568
01:58:51,610 --> 01:58:48,680
now I am opted against my better

2569
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:51,620
judgment to self publish this book the

2570
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:55,130
problem was that my publisher inner

2571
01:58:58,720 --> 01:58:57,290
traditions is in the process of

2572
01:59:00,760 --> 01:58:58,730
producing the bowery book it's called

2573
01:59:02,950 --> 01:59:00,770
decoding Maori cosmology it's also

2574
01:59:10,649 --> 01:59:02,960
available for pre-sale right now but

2575
01:59:13,620 --> 01:59:12,240
the difficulty is that with the

2576
01:59:16,290 --> 01:59:13,630
publishing schedules they have I know

2577
01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:16,300
that that meant that this book probably

2578
01:59:23,250 --> 01:59:19,690
wouldn't see print until the end of 2019

2579
01:59:25,410 --> 01:59:23,260
or maybe early 2020 but I considered the

2580
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:25,420
material the concepts to be essential

2581
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:27,370
enough that I needed to be able to talk

2582
01:59:31,979 --> 01:59:30,250
about them now I almost can't avoid

2583
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:31,989
talking about them because it relates so

2584
01:59:35,729 --> 01:59:33,370
directly to the other material I've

2585
01:59:38,550 --> 01:59:35,739
written about and so it's an unfair

2586
01:59:40,470 --> 01:59:38,560
situation either it puts the listener in

2587
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:40,480
the position of not being able to follow

2588
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:42,250
up on the thing I'm trying to discuss

2589
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:46,330
and if I talk about it now but the book

2590
01:59:49,620 --> 01:59:48,250
is not out till 2020 it's unfair to the

2591
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:49,630
publisher because now I've undercut

2592
01:59:52,470 --> 01:59:51,250
their book I've I've talked about all

2593
01:59:57,780 --> 01:59:52,480
the concepts before they ever had a

2594
01:59:59,490 --> 01:59:57,790
chance to sell their book so I made a

2595
02:00:01,620 --> 01:59:59,500
couple of approaches to new traditions

2596
02:00:04,110 --> 02:00:01,630
to try to convince them to to move up

2597
02:00:06,030 --> 02:00:04,120
the time schedule on this book I even

2598
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:06,040
offered it from over a PowerPoint

2599
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:08,050
presentation about the material to help

2600
02:00:13,110 --> 02:00:09,610
them understand how essential this

2601
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:13,120
material seems to be and their

2602
02:00:15,870 --> 02:00:14,530
constraints were such they couldn't do

2603
02:00:18,990 --> 02:00:15,880
it I mean they couldn't they couldn't

2604
02:00:22,250 --> 02:00:19,000
move up the timing of the book so as the

2605
02:00:24,629 --> 02:00:22,260
last resort I know that it would be a be

2606
02:00:26,610 --> 02:00:24,639
certainly more of a betrayal to them to

2607
02:00:28,709 --> 02:00:26,620
have me go to another publisher I opted

2608
02:00:32,459 --> 02:00:28,719
this just self-published it through

2609
02:00:34,260 --> 02:00:32,469
create space and so that puts the book

2610
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:34,270
on the market a full seven months ahead

2611
02:00:39,540 --> 02:00:36,730
of the the memory book so there's not a

2612
02:00:44,010 --> 02:00:39,550
head-to-head competition between two

2613
02:00:45,510 --> 02:00:44,020
books at the same time and it gets a

2614
02:00:49,169 --> 02:00:45,520
material out there makes it possible for

2615
02:00:50,660 --> 02:00:49,179
me to talk about it and really the only

2616
02:00:54,660 --> 02:00:50,670
solution I could find to that problem

2617
02:00:58,020 --> 02:00:54,670
well it's it's still - it's a fantastic

2618
02:01:00,120 --> 02:00:58,030
book it is a very information packed

2619
02:01:02,100 --> 02:01:00,130
tome and I would very strongly recommend

2620
02:01:04,590 --> 02:01:02,110
that everyone go check it out the link

2621
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:04,600
is in the show notes Laird I know we

2622
02:01:07,439 --> 02:01:05,650
went a little bit over and I do

2623
02:01:09,209 --> 02:01:07,449
apologize for the technical issues that

2624
02:01:12,810 --> 02:01:09,219
we had during the show which caused the

2625
02:01:17,180 --> 02:01:12,820
delay but I am just gonna play the outro

2626
02:01:19,250 --> 02:01:17,190
music for you here and let's see

2627
02:01:23,180 --> 02:01:19,260
you see from my perspective I can just

2628
02:01:24,890 --> 02:01:23,190
say that's not material it's like do we

2629
02:01:28,340 --> 02:01:24,900
exist even though we're here but you

2630
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:28,350
cannot receive us let's see here I've

2631
02:01:33,290 --> 02:01:31,650
got trying to make sure I've got one

2632
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:33,300
that won't get me flagged with the

2633
02:01:46,340 --> 02:01:40,010
copyright notice and I'll say that one

2634
02:01:49,140 --> 02:01:46,350
[Music]

2635
02:01:52,050 --> 02:01:49,150
ere we go ladies and gentlemen this has

2636
02:01:55,890 --> 02:01:52,060
been in episode 66 of the denna floor I

2637
02:01:57,960 --> 02:01:55,900
am your host Chris George Zuger and I'd

2638
02:02:00,380 --> 02:01:57,970
like to thank you all for joining us

2639
02:02:03,750 --> 02:02:00,390
enchant on Facebook on twitch on

2640
02:02:05,820 --> 02:02:03,760
periscope and especially on our home

2641
02:02:09,510 --> 02:02:05,830
youtube channel at youtube.com forward

2642
02:02:12,660 --> 02:02:09,520
slash den of lore Laird again thank you

2643
02:02:15,660 --> 02:02:12,670
very much as always I'm gonna have to go

2644
02:02:18,740 --> 02:02:15,670
sit alone with a nice glass of scotch

2645
02:02:21,930 --> 02:02:18,750
and think about this for a while well

2646
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:21,940
anyone should feel free to contact with

2647
02:02:28,470 --> 02:02:23,530
questions they can find me on Facebook

2648
02:02:31,350 --> 02:02:28,480
and again it's been mmm to be completely

2649
02:02:32,670 --> 02:02:31,360
honest and a privilege and an honor to

2650
02:02:34,350 --> 02:02:32,680
have you on here

2651
02:02:35,820 --> 02:02:34,360
I do greatly appreciate it and I know

2652
02:02:38,610 --> 02:02:35,830
that everyone out there is very grateful

2653
02:02:41,370 --> 02:02:38,620
for the opportunity to read the book and

2654
02:02:45,420 --> 02:02:41,380
try and understand the concepts more so

2655
02:02:46,980 --> 02:02:45,430
to all those out there do not forget

2656
02:02:50,250 --> 02:02:46,990
that we do have a show coming up in this

2657
02:02:58,290 --> 02:02:50,260
Friday and I think that is actually the

2658
02:03:00,480 --> 02:02:58,300
old concepts that is Aereo we've got the

2659
02:03:02,220 --> 02:03:00,490
show coming up next week or this coming

2660
02:03:04,770 --> 02:03:02,230
Friday it's gonna be a roundtable on the

2661
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:04,780
long disclosure I would very strongly

2662
02:03:08,610 --> 02:03:06,490
recommend you set your reminders in your

2663
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:08,620
own calendar now the posting fort will

2664
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:11,130
be up on the YouTube channel tomorrow

2665
02:03:19,410 --> 02:03:15,970
and yeah I would if you came in halfway

2666
02:03:21,330 --> 02:03:19,420
through go back to the beginning and and

2667
02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:21,340
start from start from then because

2668
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:22,450
you're going to need the background

2669
02:03:28,290 --> 02:03:25,570
information layer brings in thank you

2670
02:03:31,540 --> 02:03:28,300
all again ladies and gents I will see

2671
02:03:33,830 --> 02:03:31,550
you guys all in on Friday

2672
02:03:34,390 --> 02:03:33,840
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